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70Turbobug October 24th 2010 07:22

If you continue to be so tidious it should come out real good :D

V8SuperBeetle October 25th 2010 12:11

Double Post...

V8SuperBeetle October 25th 2010 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 78114)
If you continue to be so tidious it should come out real good :D

I agree... ;)


I finished the deck lid and the hood. I sprayed a final flow coat after sanding with some 600 grit. It came out almost as nice looking as a cut and buffed paint job. I'm very happy with the results. A couple dust nibs here and there, but what can you expect in a garage. ;D

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/black-v8-383-bug-1.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/black-v8-383-bug-3.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/black-v8-383-bug-2.jpg


I also resprayed the fenders. I finally figured out what I was doing wrong that I was getting solvent pop. I was just hosing too much paint on. They came out much better. Heck, I could leave them as is, but I'm going to wet sand out the texture and do a flow coat.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/hugg...-383-bug-1.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/hugg...-383-bug-2.jpg


I also recorded some video of me spraying and the results. They're currently uploading so I'll post those soon.

70Turbobug October 27th 2010 09:46

Looks great! One question...what is cut and buffed? Buffed I understand,but was is cutting in relation to a paint job?

V8SuperBeetle October 27th 2010 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 78138)
Looks great! One question...what is cut and buffed? Buffed I understand,but was is cutting in relation to a paint job?

Thanks! Cut means to sand with 1200 - 2000 sand paper. This is done to remove the orange peel or urethane wave out of a paint job so the paint is flat like a mirror.

70Turbobug October 27th 2010 11:54

Ahhh ok - thanks.I was thinking more along the lines of stretching the clear coat or paint and then spray it on then buffing it.When I was in high school we did a project on the shop teachers Willys Jeep where we sanded the clear coat with 1200 and worked our way to 2000 between clear coats to get a deep effect on the paint.Black paint seemed bottomless deep.I´m not a painter though...I was one of the lucky guys that got to sand between the clear coats.....after that,I decided to stick to engines :D

V8SuperBeetle October 28th 2010 09:59

Sanding can be no fun, but it's well worth the work in the long run. That sounds like some really fine grit to be applying another coat of clear. I wonder if he had adhesion problems with the addition coat. I only used 400 and 600. :D

V8SuperBeetle November 1st 2010 13:17

Quick update.

I tore down part of my engine (headers, wires, carb, throttle linkage, dist, alt., etc), so I can paint the engine bay, and I repainted the engine. It had gotten a little nasty looking since having broke the engine in having head a little leak here and there. Looks like new again.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/10-30-v8-s10-bug-1.jpg


I also repainted the headers. Last time i didn't follow the instructions so the paint flaked off. This time I followed them and baked the ceramic paint on @ 300º for 2 hours. Boy did that stuff stink up the house.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/10-30-v8-s10-bug-2.jpg


I sprayed the "final" flow coat this weekend but ran into problems. My paint gun was acting up in middle of spraying the first fender so I had to quickly switch to my other paint gun. Well that through me off and it wasn't all that clean. So I managed to get a couple noticeable runs and I have a lot of dust in my paint as well. Needless to say, I'll have to sand them back down, fix the problem with my gun (which I figured out this morning) and repaint. Two steps forward, one step back.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/10-30-v8-s10-bug-3.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/10-30-v8-s10-bug-4.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/10-30-v8-s10-bug-5.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/10-30-v8-s10-bug-6.jpg


Ughh...if it aint one thing, it's another. It'll get there though, just not quickly. I'm just being picky. My wife says they look good for being painted in a garage, I think I can make it better though.

70Turbobug November 2nd 2010 04:25

Keep at it until your satisfied.Nothing will annoy you more than doing something you think is half ass...;) What mods have been done to the engine? I see underdrive pulleys..

V8SuperBeetle November 3rd 2010 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 78187)
Keep at it until your satisfied.Nothing will annoy you more than doing something you think is half ass...;) What mods have been done to the engine? I see underdrive pulleys..

I agree, it would bug me every time I looked at the car.

Mods are:

350 w/ 3.75" stroker crank for a total of 383 ci.
Vortec cylinder heads w/ upgrade Lunati valvles springs.
CR of 10.39:1 / DCR of 8.69 - I may need to run 98 octane. We have 93 here at the pump.
Isky cam .450/.450 lift, 278/278 duration, 234/234 @ .050, 106 LSA, installed 4º advanced
high rise RPM intake
750 carb
headman shorty headers
2.25" dual exhaust to 40 series FlowMaster Mufflers


I had a desktop dyno ran with head flow factored by 95% (5% less than the factory published numbers). Normally they've been 5-10% accurate with the software used. Figures are...

438 hp @5500, 410 ft/lbs @2000 and 469 ft/lbs @4000.

She's a real torque monster. One of these days I'll get it to the track and see how it does in the 1/4 mile. My gearing isn't the best for 1/4 though cause I have 3.08 gears. I could use 3.73 or 4.10 for best 1/4 mile time, but I don't want the drivability to suffer for .5 seconds at the track. :)

V8SuperBeetle November 4th 2010 15:47

I put down the final coat of clear on the fenders. They look great, except for the dust in the paint. I've come to the conclusion that this is the best I'll be able to get them painting in my garage, which isn't bad at all. Don't get me wrong, they have a nice mirror finish, just has a little dust though. There's a dog hair and bug on one fender too. LOL

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and will cut and buff the paint job. I'm thinking I'll hit it with 1200 to level out the dust, bug and hair, then 1500 and finally 2000. Then compound with the wool bonnet and polish with the foam bonnet. I've never buffed out a car before so I don't really know what to expect, other than it should come out like a dust free mirror. LOL

Can't hurt to try / practice it on a fender. If something goes wrong, I still have plenty of clear.

Here are the results. If you look at the light in the reflection you'll see the dust.

Oh yeah, my purple paint gun crapped out on me. That's okay though cause I have my backup that does just as well. I was just really getting used to the purple one though. No biggie. It did it's $35 dollars worth of work. Now to get my $50 out of this one. ;D

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/fina...-fenders-1.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/fina...-fenders-2.jpg


Here are the products I'm THINKING about getting to do the cut and buff job.

Buffer with wool and foam bonnet.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAK-9227CX3/

Buffing compound.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MEG-M-8532/

Polishing compound.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MEG-M-8232/


Any comments or advice would be much appreciated. I've never buffed before.

V8SuperBeetle November 4th 2010 15:49

I put down the final coat of clear on the fenders. They look great, except for the dust in the paint. I've come to the conclusion that this is the best I'll be able to get them painting in my garage, which isn't bad at all. Don't get me wrong, they have a nice mirror finish, just has a little dust though. There's a dog hair and bug on one fender too. LOL

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and will cut and buff the paint job. I'm thinking I'll hit it with 1200 to level out the dust, bug and hair, then 1500 and finally 2000. Then compound with the wool bonnet and polish with the foam bonnet. I've never buffed out a car before so I don't really know what to expect, other than it should come out like a dust free mirror. LOL

Can't hurt to try / practice it on a fender. If something goes wrong, I still have plenty of clear.

Here are the results. If you look at the light in the reflection you'll see the dust.

Oh yeah, my purple paint gun crapped out on me. That's okay though cause I have my backup that does just as well. I was just really getting used to the purple one though. No biggie. It did it's $35 dollars worth of work. Now to get my $50 out of this one. ;D

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/fina...-fenders-1.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/fina...-fenders-2.jpg


Here are the products I'm THINKING about getting to do the cut and buff job.

Buffer with wool and foam bonnet.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAK-9227CX3/

Buffing compound.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MEG-M-8532/

Polishing compound.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MEG-M-8232/


Any comments or advice would be much appreciated. I've never buffed before.

bow November 4th 2010 22:54

sweet man youll be alot happier with the 3m buffing and polishing compounds

V8SuperBeetle November 8th 2010 11:09

Thanks, bow.

After about 24 hours of masking, painting and waiting between coats, I finally have her in color!

Once it cures I'm going to wet sand and shoot a final float coat for an even smooth finish.

Sealed her up inside and out with a coat of epoxy primer.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-1.jpg


Two coats of color.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-2.jpg


2 coats of black, 3 coats of clear.

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-3.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-4.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-5.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-6.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-7.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-8.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...8-383bug-9.jpg

http://www.mikeydesigns.com/bug/summ...-383bug-10.jpg

volkdent November 8th 2010 18:14

Big progress, can't wait to see her bolted up!


Jason


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