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Jim April 18th 2008 07:14

Thanks in advance all of you quys!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem was solved after installed the Brantz vss behind the speedometer.
Now it revs with no problem at top high of 6500rpms and is ready for daily use and why not for some street race!!!!

Kind regards,
Jim

chug_A_bug April 18th 2008 15:02

Please take it to the track
No Street racing :D
save that for the Rice burners

Chris.

Jim June 24th 2008 08:29

It seems that i will never pass the VSS problem:angry: :angry: :angry:

It stops to give signal in to the ECU..

Can i bypass the error code and if yes how can i do it?

Also until now no way found on how to read from my 14pin OBD..as I need to plug a paraller ECU:confused:

Please see attached pictures and if anyone knows anything about this problem please advice.

The OBD slot appears with read color.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1808/174wx7.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8735/52ej9.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/739/525qf3.jpg

Thanks in advance fellas!
Jim

Rob June 24th 2008 09:05

What are you using to read the OBD codes ?
I bought a cable of a guy in Montreal and used a free tool to read the codes (I think it was EcuExplorer)



As to the VSS, I used a super simple solution, and it seems to work fine. Is your ECU not registering the signal, or is your VSS not sending out a signal ?

Check out page 9 and up: http://www.vanbran.com/bug/conversion_main.htm

Rob.

Steve C June 24th 2008 18:21

Hi Rob

Your solution for the VSS is brilliant.

Something occurred to me a while ago regarding the VSS, what happens when you put the car on a dyno, will you get a error code because the front wheels aren't turning and operating the VSS?

Maybe someone else has got around this, but I thought that you could spin the VSS with an electric drill at the appropriate time to avoid error codes.

Steve

Eatoniashoprat June 24th 2008 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve C (Post 66021)
Hi Rob

Your solution for the VSS is brilliant.

Something occurred to me a while ago regarding the VSS, what happens when you put the car on a dyno, will you get a error code because the front wheels aren't turning and operating the VSS?

Maybe someone else has got around this, but I thought that you could spin the VSS with an electric drill at the appropriate time to avoid error codes.

Steve

When I was figuring my van out I just had the ecu VSS wire, a 5v wire and a ground. I would just touch the VSS wire to the ground and 5V a couple times and even if it was very slowly it would work. For most of the ECU's I don't think the computer cares what the speed of the VSS is saying as long as it has a signal that goes from 5V to ground continuously. This is just my experience. So for the dyno you could just do that during the run and hopefully it would work.

Rob June 24th 2008 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve C (Post 66021)
Hi Rob

Your solution for the VSS is brilliant.

Something occurred to me a while ago regarding the VSS, what happens when you put the car on a dyno, will you get a error code because the front wheels aren't turning and operating the VSS?

Maybe someone else has got around this, but I thought that you could spin the VSS with an electric drill at the appropriate time to avoid error codes.

Steve

As much as I'd love to take credit for the solution, It's not mine :)
The guys at the Subaru-Vanagon group came up with this.

As to the Dyno question: the VSS is on the rear axle, so it would work just fine :)

Rob.

Steve C June 25th 2008 00:00

Hi

The VSS that I have is one that hooks up to the speedo cable, so if I dyno my car I would need to make arrangements to trigger it. I'm pretty sure the VSS. informs the management software that the car has stopped, you wouldn't want to have an error code show up during tuning.

I now have plug & play Autronic SM4 ecu for my car which has an Autotune feature, I just need to buy O2 interface for it and then I could do most of the tuning on the road.

Steve

Eatoniashoprat June 25th 2008 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve C (Post 66024)
Hi

The VSS that I have is one that hooks up to the speedo cable, so if I dyno my car I would need to make arrangements to trigger it. I'm pretty sure the VSS. informs the management software that the car has stopped, you wouldn't want to have an error code show up during tuning.

I now have plug & play Autronic SM4 ecu for my car which has an Autotune feature, I just need to buy O2 interface for it and then I could do most of the tuning on the road.

Steve

Ya my van is still subaru ecu but I have a Apexi Power FC for the beetle. The one problem with the little VSS simulator circuit that I have is that it is on all the time, so the high idle you get while driving the car is there all the time. I would be nice if when stopped it would idle down some. I think I'm going to try the reed switch idea seems it seems fairly cheap and easy/quick.

Rob June 25th 2008 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve C (Post 66024)
Hi

The VSS that I have is one that hooks up to the speedo cable, so if I dyno my car I would need to make arrangements to trigger it. I'm pretty sure the VSS. informs the management software that the car has stopped, you wouldn't want to have an error code show up during tuning.

I now have plug & play Autronic SM4 ecu for my car which has an Autotune feature, I just need to buy O2 interface for it and then I could do most of the tuning on the road.

Steve


Ah, Now I see :)

When the stock ECU does not see a VSS signal it will limit the RPM's to 3500 (or so).
So yeah, tuning with only 3500 RPM wouldn't work so great ;)

Rob.


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