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bow September 3rd 2005 19:01

just take the baffling out of the stock exhaust then weld up the hole where you had to cut :)

redhot November 12th 2007 16:06

Are there any updates on this?

Want a "stock" looking exhaust for a 2.0 liter GB engine. Must exit through the stock location.

Cohibra45 November 12th 2007 16:29

redhot,

Chris at Tangerine makes a complete header with an muffler that can accommodate your needs. Very nice and well built. It does cost, but, it is probably the best you can get :cool: .

http://www.tangerineracing.com/Super_Header.htm

Take care,

Kelly (Cohibra45)

redhot November 12th 2007 17:07

Hi,

Thank you for the link!

That was a very steep price, but of course quality costs. But cant afford that one as it is...

Thoug: CSP has a Type4 in Beetle muffler, but didnt fint the corrensponding header/exhaust system

redhot December 3rd 2007 10:34

Found one here:

http://www.yunis.de/klaus5/en/SD_english.asp

Anyone tried it?

http://www.yunis.de/klaus5/images/Sc...fer/SD%203.jpg

redhot March 19th 2010 08:41

This picture is of a Memminger Feine Cabrios car - anyone recognize the muffler, or could it be a one-off?

/Limo_wei9.jpghttp://www.feinecabrio.de/cms/upload.../Limo_wei9.jpg

johnnyvee March 19th 2010 12:03

that kind of looks like a old style exhaust canister, you have any more pics of the car's engine setup

Arnoud March 21st 2010 05:56

Why don't you get the Vintage Speed stainless steel 'Superflow' exhaust which I believe is exeptional value for money-hey even german tuners(Wilke for ex.)sell them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzR-1...eature=channel

Regards,Arnoud

redhot September 4th 2010 08:31

The Vintage speed is similar to that of Klaus tuning, CSP and many others. Looking at some pictures it seems that they hang pretty low, reducing the clearance to the ground.
But a merged system that still exits out the rear cut-outs is not that available. I would love a design like the CSP supercompetition for a type4 engine. This also removes the large mufflers to the wheel arches, meaning not problems with clearance.

Perhaps someone would chime in with some exhaust theory: does it really matter that much on an close to stock 914 2.0 engine?

vdubzack September 4th 2010 16:07

A better flowing exhaust will make a difference, even on a near stock 2.0 It's enhanced flow will allow for cooler head temps and lower the chance for dropping valve seats.

evilC September 6th 2010 07:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhot (Post 77608)
Perhaps someone would chime in with some exhaust theory: does it really matter that much on an close to stock 914 2.0 engine?

The best ehaust for a street/semi-competition motor is a 4-2-1 with 30"+ primaries and similar secondaries depending on the state of tune. However, the architecture of the flat 4 boxer engine doesn't lend itself to this sort of design so you get the compromise 4-1 layout with a merged collector at best. At least CSP and the like have got the 4-2-1 concept firmly in their blood to attempt it on the VW flat 4 engine but the spaghetti pipework has to be an expensive work of art. A 4-2-1 arrangement should give a more flexible engine that may be down 1 or 2 bhp on the 4-1 unit but that flexibility shows itself in A-B times and economy.

Clive

vdubzack September 13th 2010 06:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakarottt (Post 39960)
Turns out that in the state of Maryland, It is illegal to have any sort of exhaust modifications.. So I need to find a stock looking exhaust for my 2110. Or at least an exhaust that sticks out the stock holes or is relatively hidden.. Any suggestions?

It is also illegal to lower or raise your car more than 2 inches.

Not actually illegal to have a modified exhaust.
But it has to be enclosed by body panels. So most Fat Boy and almost all merged exhaust systems will fail initial as the muffler is not below car but behind it. Plus if your 2110 is type 1 based i would go for this one,
http://store.vintagespeed.com.tw/ind...mart&Itemid=80
as the price and value is there. And for those( oh its Chinese junk ) people. there is a lot of stuff being manufactured there by companies that dont even no for what car they are making stuff for. These guys are enthusiasts. and test and run everey thing they make.

redhot February 13th 2011 08:15

So; how does the original Porsche systems work? It does not look like they are using the 4 into 1 systems most VW performance exhaust use, or do they have a collector inside the muffler? (both 914 and 911?)

http://www.914neuteile.de/cms/upload...einbau/146.jpg

SilverBullet February 14th 2011 09:39

This should be Remelle's exhaust, as for Klaus, he said he only sells his exhaust system with his engines!

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhot (Post 74930)
This picture is of a Memminger Feine Cabrios car - anyone recognize the muffler, or could it be a one-off?

/Limo_wei9.jpghttp://www.feinecabrio.de/cms/upload.../Limo_wei9.jpg


evilC February 15th 2011 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhot (Post 79647)
So; how does the original Porsche systems work? It does not look like they are using the 4 into 1 systems most VW performance exhaust use, or do they have a collector inside the muffler? (both 914 and 911?)

http://www.914neuteile.de/cms/upload...einbau/146.jpg

The porsche is a 6 cylinder engine so 4 - 1 cannot work :) As with most 6 cylinder engines the scavenging effect tends to work with the coupling of each set of adjacent cylinder so you should get 6 - 2 - 1 as shown in the photo. The same arrangement on 6 cylinders work whether its a straight 6 V6 or flat 6. On a 4 cylinder to get scavenging the cylinders are coupled 360* out so that on an inline 4 with a firing order of 1,3,4,2; 1 is coupled to 4 and 3 couple to 2. The same applies to V8s so that is why the exhaust plumbing ends up looking like spaghetti.
then you start to consider single plane crankshafts..............................

Clive


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