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dub_crazee November 23rd 2009 17:36

martin at Bug@5 does a starter that will mesh with the bus 228mm flywheel which is what i am planning on using -

my set up will be

bug@5 starter
bug@5 guidance tube
T3 TOB
228 Bus flywheel
228 PP

not sure on friction plate just yet....

wrenchnride247 November 23rd 2009 17:56

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Originally Posted by dub_crazee (Post 72456)
martin at Bug@5 does a starter that will mesh with the bus 228mm flywheel which is what i am planning on using -

my set up will be

bug@5 starter
bug@5 guidance tube
T3 TOB
228 Bus flywheel
228 PP

not sure on friction plate just yet....

Sounds like a plan. When I got my parts from Martin he didn't have a starter from what I remember...been two years now (where has the time gone:rolleyes:)

Anyway, With my engine size and projected power output Jake didn't want to trust a cast 228 flywheel thats over twenty years old. I know lots of people use them, but we felt it would be the weak link in this setup. If you want a new forged billet 228...Kennedy can make one. For the past two years Jake and I have tried to find a factory forged 228, but never found one. The ones people said were forged that Jake bought were cast. And the companies we talked to that specialize in WBX motors said they never seen one either.

Wally November 23rd 2009 18:02

My 228mm that now runs 350 hp/6500 rpm is cast too and obviously holds fine, but I'd rather have the Kennedy 228mm steel one as well tbh. Its not forged billet BTW, I asked specifically and they say its just a very good steel item, which is a sort of chr-mo if your not picky ;-). Pity it costs so much to ship these have items to europe.

wrenchnride247 November 23rd 2009 22:54

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Originally Posted by Wally (Post 72458)
My 228mm that now runs 350 hp/6500 rpm is cast too and obviously holds fine, but I'd rather have the Kennedy 228mm steel one as well tbh. Its not forged billet BTW, I asked specifically and they say its just a very good steel item, which is a sort of chr-mo if your not picky ;-). Pity it costs so much to ship these have items to europe.

Jake doesn't want to risk the stock cast ones on this build. (I don't either) Many people use these stock flywheel's with good success...but there is always that one (which would be mine :rolleyes:) Brett told me forged billet, but I didn't question him about it...I'm just happy to finally get a "new" flywheel for my project. I was also happy to hear (for others on here ;)) they can make a "new" 228 flywheel.

Oh yeah, I hope to build this 2.9 beast in January, and dyno it! Then, I might be able to tell you some details of what's in it...I'm under strict orders right now. I've only seen a few parts of it myself :D

dub_crazee December 13th 2009 09:40

so has anyone actually run the 228 bus pp? if so what friction plate did you find that was suitable?

DORIGTT December 13th 2009 17:35

What's the projected cost of that soon to be beautiful flywheel?

wrenchnride247 December 13th 2009 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by dub_crazee (Post 72735)
so has anyone actually run the 228 bus pp? if so what friction plate did you find that was suitable?

Sandeep, and Wally run the 228 PP. The disc is a 228 with a different center hub, Kennedy can make these no problem. (making one for me right now):D

wrenchnride247 December 13th 2009 23:00

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Originally Posted by DORIGTT (Post 72741)
What's the projected cost of that soon to be beautiful flywheel?

I don't know the exact amount (didn't ask) yet, reguardless...I need it!
My guess though is about $250?

dub_crazee December 14th 2009 17:07

ah sorry i got confused - i thought wally was using the 911 clutch set up not the bus pp.

looks like id better get on the phone to KEP then

Wally December 14th 2009 18:05

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Originally Posted by dub_crazee (Post 72768)
ah sorry i got confused - i thought wally was using the 911 clutch set up not the bus pp.

I did! but back when I still had the 915 (using a KEP adapter 915->type 4 flywheel). That adapter flywheel (doesn't have a ring gear like all 915 fw's) costed about $250,-- too back then BTW.

NOW (with the G50) I use a stock cast 228mm type 4 flywheel and HD 228mm Sachs pp like Wrench described perfectly ;).

All clear? :)

dub_crazee December 17th 2009 14:10

thanks for clearing that up :)


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