Zen, where did I see something about custom length axle shafts? Might be some off road part or something. Let me look through my papers. Can you measure the axle shaft and give us a length of what you need?

you know. i have to go check something. i forgot you brought me a set of axles too. maybe i just mixed up yours and Yeti's. back in a minute.

Yeah, I got you one to try out, was t2 on one end, bug on the other, came out of drag bug with a bus tranny.

partial user error (the house move bits me again). i had grabbed john's not Yeti's. so i have the right cv's (100mm) for the stub side, but the axles are still too short by about 1.5" when the cv's are stretched to their limits. the axles (off of the Vanagon) are 19". possible these are late arms john? i am measuring 21" from output to stub. i can't verify the part numbers anywhere. they are 951.331.513 and 514.

still can't find that part number anywhere, but they are certainly early as you said, john (not questioning you of course, just verifying to ease my questions on axle fitment). i just fitted up a wheel and fender to see what i get and i'm not sure i even got the suggested 1.75" per side. here is a pick with the stock suspension on with 2" spacers...
http://volksport.net/images/projpics/zen22.jpg

here are some picks of the 951 arms with a 1.75" spacer on...
http://volksport.net/images/projpics/zen26.jpg
http://volksport.net/images/projpics/zen27.jpg


don't know that i have the time, but i may need to consider late arms. based on what i saw genius say in another thread, it doesn't change the axle issue. he is using a 944S 21.25" axle. the axle length must be the same between early and late arms. anyone want to trade early for late arms? :)

if the early arms add 43mm and this is what i look like with that plus 1.75" (which i would want to shave about .25" to .33" off of that for the perfect fit), then the extra 32mm of the late arms gets me pretty darn close.

Zen, those are the early arms, came off a 924s which is the same as the early 944t. This is just too much fun. Sure you don't want to put a 901 tranny in there to muck up the workes even more? :)

LOL. yea i'm sure, thanks though. :D

i at least have the spring plates on. just have to do something with the rest of it now (within the next 3 weeks).

for the hell of it i put one of my Ronals on. 16x8ET23.3. a perfect fit. i just don't like the looks as much as i thought i would and especially not more than the boxster rims i bought later. pic is attached. the rim is not nutted down so it is at an angle.

Zen, if you need I have two new type 1 CV's with new red grease boots. You could probably find yourself a set of axles on ebay. Just slap on the type 1's on the inside and the 100mm CV's on the outside and your done. :)

thanks for the offer. my old T1 CVs are fine. i think i am OK on boots too. have to double check that. just need axles and i think i want to go with late arms now. if they truly add 30mm to the early arms and my wheel was just a tad far out with a 1.75" spacer, i should be just right. so have to hunt some down to buy or trade for my early ones (gotta dream). if you see any, let me know.

I think I saw one or two sets of arms on ebay. They may have been early though. :(

Why do you discount T181 flanges?

Here are some:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2457448121

no issue with them. just because tranny and everything is in the car. i am almost ready to roll with the car. not interested in changing to them at this point. just as easy to find the other axles i think.

You beat me to it, I was going to tell you there are a few 944s being parted on pelican parts. :)

yea. hoping to find some late arms local to save on shipping. don't know many yards here though except PAP and they are never cheap.

Try this guy, Jared Schulz, 417 850 1863. He's in St. Louis, but may be able to get them too you fast and with a good price.

Since you don't have axles at this time, swapping the flanges is a snap (pun intended). You can easily do it in the car in about 10 minutes. No need to pull the gearbox.

wasn't aware of that. thanks for the info. i thought it was more involved. i don't have axles at this point either way (and less cash) so just depends on what i can find when and how much.

Zen, I have a set of type 181 flanges if you want them. I bought them at bug jam but didn't need them. Let me know. :)

Swapping flanges = very easy. Soooo easy in fact, that even I was able to do it :D . Big thanks to Bruce for the flanges and even more for the tips on how to get it done!

ok, so what about changing flanges and stub axles in a type 3 squareback? Bigger CV's probably serve me no purpose anyway, but with a turbo toyota conversion in the future plans, what components would I require to do the swap? will the later 944 alum. arms fit my type 3 irs suspension? are the axle length and cv size requirements the same for me as for the type 1 guys?

Thanks,

Jay

Engine swap. Hmmmm.
2JZ-GTE????? That would be kick a$$. :cool:

Hey! I saw him first!

Jay, the T3 is the same as a Bug, so anything needed in a Bug's conversion is needed for a T3. A T3 has the double spring plates like 69-70 Bugs do, so you may need to swap to the later single spring plates.

What cars/years/parts for the drive shafts and cv's?
 

I need to complete the tranny to wheel broken link in my to do list. I have a hook up with the local junk yard guy. So I can grab alot for little.
Can anyone give the answers? :D

901 question
 

Given that I am getting a 901 setup from tranny to stubs, can I just use the complete 901 setup and change the stubs to fit the type 1?
If not what so I need? What can I use?

genius, send 'em my way. i got all of the parts from a '87 944S. the axles are different enough that i can't see the spline count. probably could if i pull the circlip off which may happen tomorrow. anyway, i am thinking it will just be easier to stay 100mm on both ends. let me know what i owe you. should only be a one day ship.

will post about new track width and rotor differences later tonight. i have pics. :agree:

have been getting slightly off the subject of the T181 flanges, but it is coming full circle. i previously posted shots of the track difference with the early arms. thought i would update with the track with the late arms. this pic is late arms, 17x8.5ET48 rims with NO spacer. think i may eventually add a 1/4" spacer or so, but will wait until i see the car down and settled in first.

http://www.volksport.net/images/proj...wlatearms1.jpg
http://www.volksport.net/images/proj...wlatearms2.jpg

the full circle part is that i will porbably be going with T181 flanges now because of having issues finding the right axles to mix CV sizes. this will allow for 100MM CVs on both sides.

Pics aren't working for me. Is it just my computer... :confused:

Genius, it must be your computer because that is one Sweeet Beetle I can see :laugh:


Rob.

Pictures are working now. :laugh: