sandeep, i just talked to FAT about the shroud. what are you going to do about:

1. the oil filler
2. plumbing for the external cooler
3. sealing tin (has anyone tried the OPP btin with a FAT shroud?)
4. linkage (through the shroud behind it, how?)

any places you can recommend to pick up a fan, alt and strap other than ebay (too few) and FAT (too expensive)?

the kit itself seems like a deal, but looks like these little things can add up.

Zen,

the oil filler
You can fill the oil by using one of the holes for the oil breather in either head. It will take longer to fill though. When I get my NOS case ready to build, I will bore out the filler location on the pulley side (bottom right) and fit an oil filler adapter tube there.

plumbing for the external cooler
I'm going to use a Mesa Cooler with fan under the rear parcel tray, with an oil cooler adapter off of the stock oil coller location

sealing tin (has anyone tried the OPP btin with a FAT shroud?) Not sure about that one yet... but will conquer when the time comes :D

linkage (through the shroud behind it, how?)
I'm trying to find a linkage like the one shown in Keith Seume's book... Custom Beetle Handbook, on page 81. It is a bell crank style... no hex bar...

So far I have less than $600 invested in the FAT shroud/Porsche alt setup....

I'll do a tech article on my install during the winter.

Sandeep

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Sandeep, why don't you use the cheap linkage from CSP? It's stainless, left- & right threads on the bars, center mounted. Perfect for a Type 4 and really cheap, around 35$ for you, when I convert it correctly.

Some more pics from Volks World
 

Looks more like the FAT setup.... Shows some cover tin ideas...

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/A.jpg


Similar 'Half Moon' cut in decklid with licence plate moved up to cover cut....

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/B.jpg


Here's a pic of the Bell Crank Linkage (Thanks Oliver for the idea !)

http://members.rogers.com/ssyan/C.jpg

Notice that the tag light is moved up, and so is the tag, probably to hide the fan clearance areas.......good luck.

The CSP loinkage is great I use it all the time.

It looks simular to the scat linkage which I have. Is there a way to avoid the idle speed difference from cold to hot due to engine expansion?

Thanks
Ron

Mine never changes on my cars with engine temperature. one trick I did was to slightly wear the ball sockets a bit with some lapping compound and give som "play" in the linkage, that took care of it.....

The Linkage is way different than any Scat linkage I have ever seen before.

Slick idea Jake. The scat linkage has bolts that attatch the linkage to the throttle levers on the carbs. I bet I could create some play somewhere in the system. The original kadron linkage that I replaced had the ball and socket, which is the "big complaint" about the kad linkage. I'm not sure why though. Also my engine probably expands about a 1/2" more than yours:)


Thanks,
Ron

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Hi All,

Here's some pics of the shroud kit that arrived today...

Hardware and instructions ..... looks to be of good quality... the pulley is billet and anodized black...
http://www.germanlook.com/Images/Fat1.jpg


The shroud is painted a deep cherry red ... Very nice .... It will match my BIG REDS nicely .. :yummy:
http://www.germanlook.com/Images/Fat2.jpg

http://www.germanlook.com/Images/Fat3.jpg

cont in next post ....

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Note the interesting wedge shape at the back of the shroud. I wonder if this helps split the air between both cylinder banks.... ? I realize that the shroud will be pressurized but its kind of neat to see it first hand.

http://www.germanlook.com/Images/Fat4.jpg

http://www.germanlook.com/Images/Fat5.jpg

I don't have time to fiddle with it right now but will do so in late December !!


Sandeep

thanks for the pics sandeep. still haven't made up my mind. there is some interesting conversation on the DTM on STF that i have been on. i would prefer going that way, but FAT is looking like one of the better options right now.

has anyone used the FAT shroud with the porsche fan conical air fins on the back of the fan? does the air flow still get back to #3?

Zen,
Pay vince the money and get started, sitting back waiting is not going to do anything except put your further down the list....

He is having a tough time, but I feel confident you'll get a shroud.

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The fat shroud looks better than I thought from the rear. The air dividing through the shroud form is common here, but as zen asked, on the earlier conversions you had to use the original porsche air fins, that sit on the alt. screwing flange. It wouldn't fit into the fat shroud, but I think, that there's no need for it, as the air is correctly devided. Even #3 will get enough air!

I agree with Oliver.

Look at part #18 in a real Porsche 911 shroud:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/Part..._metal_big.htm

This is not part of any VW 911 shroud that I am aware of. The way I see it cylinder #1 and #3 get all the cooling and rob #4 and #2.

Plus the remote oil cooler can be a good and bad thing depending on how you plan the work. You need a big big cooler with air flow to keep her cool, like in the Porsche 911 C2 and 993. No little 3 pass tube crap cooler will do the trick.

But what is sweet it that you can run a true 911 cooling system with t-stats so the cooler so the oil will heat up quickly.

As for the Golf alt... I have no idea of its lifespan.

Also I agree with Alex. There is no way I would cut an early "W" lid just for a shroud. But the modern Beetles I could :)

Just run a DTM and don't worry about it.....