He's right, all A5 cars are 5x112

Thanks man. I might have Lanner just buy one rotor and get all the dimensions off of it then take it back. VW Parts accept non-used parts back don't they?

Jason

yes we do.

Or you could just go to the dealer with a stud pattern guage and ask the front counter parts salesman to grab you an 06 jetta/rabbit rotor.

It's actually not the pattern I'm worried about, it's the hub-centric area, the angle and diameter of this area, but Lanner said that it's actually on the hub, not the rotor, so that's not much help. I would be hearing from Lanner later this week about how things have worked out.

Jason

the MkVs have a much different offset than the mkIVs. I dont know if this matters in your set up but I'll throw it out there as a heads up.

MkV wheel sizes
GLI/GTI stock Ronal 17" wheel - 17x7 et 54 - 23lbs
Monza/Detroit/Hufweisen BBS 18" wheel - 18x7.5 et 51 - 29lbs
Karthoum 18" wheel - 18x8 et 50 - 28lbs

MkIV R32 and 20th Ann. Edition wheel size
Aristo (R32 and 20thAE) 18 x 7.5 et 35 - 21 lbs.

YES! 50-54 is a great range for offsets! I'll be able to run Porsche or VW wheels on the front, Lanner is making up hubs that will accept both, and I'll have him make up some adapters for the rear. That's great news, thanks.

Jason

Wish I had a set of those Aristos laying around... :bawling:



Jeff-

I've got a set available....

I better take it off thread and PM you before the name callin' starts...:p


Jeff-

Sorry about that folks:eek:

Hey, who's hijackin' my post!!!;)

Look man! That guy rubbed my lamp and said my name three times while staring in the mirror in the bathroom at night after burying my body in an old indian grave yard and injecting me with a green sparkling fluid that was given to him by a group who never seemed to die but was never seen during the day.


He started it!!!!:D

I'm glad there's a least SOME truth to that, and of course that I'm not overly sensitive.:D

Jason

Is this the thread about narrowing bus beams? :p

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Calipers, hubs, rotors, hats, adapter plates, and wheel nuts are now sitting in my garage. I must say, I think Lanner outdid himself. Before some people with busses and KGs start in, the pics will be coming shortly! The hubs and hats were drilled for 2 patterns, 5x130 and 5x112, and then Lanner built a hubcentric adapter to work with the larger Porsche ID.

Jason

That's a good idea. I'd love to see the new parts. :laugh:

WooHoo! Progress! :cool:



Jeff-

As promised.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/302504.jpg

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/302506.jpg

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/302508.jpg

Jason

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/302511.jpg

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/302512.jpg

very very cool indeed :D

nice send pics when you start to install it all ;)

Back on it again, finally. Little hiccups to work out, but these things were made very well by Lanner at VDub Engineering. Pics as promised.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/329302.jpg

Sorry for the focus, stupid camera!

Jason

That's looking killer Jason! Glad to see you back on it.

Lookin good:clap:

very very nice :D

I've had a little hiccup with the brakes, seems Brazilian spindles are a little different than the German spindle Lanner built these on. The calipers sit about 2.25mm inboard of where is should. Once again Lanner impressed me with his customer service, and had German spindles shipping my way before I could sneeze. He's really a very talented guy who values his customers greatly, something we need more of these days..... I'm tired of talking to people in India! Anyway, I'll mock this up on the German spindles and hopefully we are back in the saddle.

Jason

Oh yeah Jason! Lanner is "Da man"! He is a true customer satisfaction kinda guy! That was way cool of him to send German spindles.

Calipers on with new adapters, remote reservoirs in, pedal assembly all in, need to do brake lines, hose from reservoirs to MCs, and fab up the mounting point for the remote bias adjuster this weekend hopefully. Still need to get 2 braided lines for the front calipers, already have the rears. Need to fab up some mounting points for the flex lines.

Working on the hydrolic clutch system in parallel, just got the metric hoses set up for standard fittings so I can run available hose around without too much trouble. Those bubble flanges are not easy to get in the US. Ya ya ya, I'll get pics up, quit yer whining!

Jason

Well, it's been a busy summer, almost 6 months without turning a wrench, but I've ordered the braided lines for the front, and finally found a 3/16 inverted double female elbow I need to tie my OEM VW line into my standard hard line. I have 2 weeks off in Sept, so hopefully there will be plenty of progress to show for it.

Jason

Finally got the master cylinder remote reservoirs in. Two are for the front and rear brake master cylinders and one is for the hydrolic clutch.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/378765.jpg

The final brake setup. I still need to paint the caliper adapter, but I'm going to run it to make sure it doesn't need to be changed again. I like the inner brakeline mount. It's just aluminum riveted to the inner fender, but it's simple and it looks good I think.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/378769.jpg

All the hoses are run to the master cylinders now, the clutch system is now in working order and bled. The brakes still need the lines built, but the reservoirs are all done except for the hose clamps. There is a grommet for the clutch reservoir hose, and on each brake reservoir hose there is a brass fitting that creates a 90 deg turn and drops the hose through the bulkhead, but keeps the gravity feed in place.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/378771.jpg

Had to make some "adjustments" to the bulkhead to clear the remote brake bias bar cable.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/378774.jpg

Jason

Suhweeeet! :D


Jeff-

Yeeeee Haaaaaa!!!! I finished building the brake lines today! What a PITA!!! Everything is tightened up now, only had one small leak, right off of one master cylinder, just had to tighten the copper crush washer a bit more. I put paper towel under each connection, it showed if there was any leaks. I'd recomend it if your building your brake system from scratch.

My girlfriend did the pumping, "pump......off........pump.....off.....", she's a gear head too, so it was very smooth sailing. Seriously firm pedal, but it feels like its going to be just right. I just need to get the thing running now!!!

Pics when I get back in town this coming weekend.

Jason

Pics as promised. Next update will be on performance and then maybe adding an emergency brake.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/386425.jpg
Brake line bracket and linelock in background

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/386426.jpg
Rear line T

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/386427.jpg
Front T and brakelight switch

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/386430.jpg
Not a brake line, this is the hydrolic clutch line, but it was all done with the same line so I thought I'd include it.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/386432.jpg
The line lock, just in case some smoky burnouts become necessary...

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/386433.jpg
The business end of the brake system..

Jason

That is one seriously nice swing mount pedal system Jason! Is it a bolt-in job inside the cab? You might consider designing and selling a kit for that - at least the frame assembly - leave it up to the purchaser to purchase the pedals and mastercylinders?
That solves a lot of problems trying to get not only a dual M/C brake pedal, but hydraulic clutch too!
Nice!
Jeff

OK - sorry about that Jason - just read through the whole thread and now see the details.

You mentioned the Wilwood mechanical caliper for E-brake. Not sure if you've gotten these yet? I'm in a similar boat and do have a set of these - that I'm likely not going to use. I'm not crazy at all about the way they mount - basically a small "tang" fitting into a somewhat crude slot on either side of the caliper (as shown in that previous pic). I'm also not crazy about the way the floating pad sits in the caliper - it's not attached to anything! There is an actuator pin, backing plate and puck-pad all sitting loose in the caliper - only thing holding them in place is the fit of caliper to rotor, and that's "roughly" determined by that tang mounting business. Might be all right for a go-cart but......

You've probably seen the new Wilwood caliper with built-in e-brake? That might be the direction you'd want to take?? Or..........

How about a real floating mechanical caliper - with bolt-in sliding pins that simply bolt to your mounting bracket - just like the hydraulic Wilwood calipers bolt on??!!
Take a gander at these - same overall size as the Wilwood mechanicals, true precision floating mounting pins....
http://www.ipsco.org/Custom%20Servic...ng%20Brake.htm
Came across these on a GT40's web board - and they look like the perfect match for a set of Wilwoods! :D They Will be going on my brake set-up.
Cheers,
Jeff

I've got those crappy Wilwood ones, and I totally agree. Those ones you showed are awesome!!! I'll have to look into those when I get there. That MC bracket is really simple and I was surprised how well it worked out. I agree that it would be good to put into production, but I want to make sure it work really well before I do. It involves drilling 2 holes for mounting, that's it!!! You need to drill more for the fluid lines, but still, pretty minor compared to all the body hacking I've seen from other styles of pedals.

Jason

Maybe too late, but a company in the UK has designed an ebrake conversion kit for the main calipers:
http://www.marlincars.co.uk/5exi_dev_brakes.html

Wow, even better!!! I've got the Wilwoods pictured there! That's a great solution, I wish the PDF would download so I can actually see what the mechanism is.

Jason

Brakes have had their first small test, seem OK, but hard pedal at this point. Might be perfect, it was just at low speed, but at least they work!!!

Jason