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judgie March 21st 2006 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimby
I have picked trhe brain of gavin, he's a mate that is an aerodynamic engineer on the currnt F1 Renault team, yes the ones that are winning :D
he reckons the first thing is the flat pan, second is slice the rear of the front wings so you can see the rear of the front tyres. get the car as low and flat as you can. kill the lift on the front with louvers on the wing tops and even ducts on the bonnet, a bit like the elise.

:)

what about front splitter and spoiler?
took my new rear wing to work today to get it painted,came off a f3 lola and is a duel element.
will start work on the flat floor and front spoiler/splitter at the weekend.have all next week of work to get ready for new season/volksworld show :D
cheers rob

volkdent March 21st 2006 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimby
I have picked trhe brain of gavin, he's a mate that is an aerodynamic engineer on the currnt F1 Renault team, yes the ones that are winning :D
he reckons the first thing is the flat pan, second is slice the rear of the front wings so you can see the rear of the front tyres. get the car as low and flat as you can. kill the lift on the front with louvers on the wing tops and even ducts on the bonnet, a bit like the elise.

:)

Thanks Gavin! I'm really glad to hear that his recommendations are what I've been thinking about doing. Gives me a little bit more confidence that I'll actually get some results for my efforts.

Jason

jimby March 22nd 2006 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by judgie
what about front splitter and spoiler?
took my new rear wing to work today to get it painted,came off a f3 lola and is a duel element.
will start work on the flat floor and front spoiler/splitter at the weekend.have all next week of work to get ready for new season/volksworld show :D
cheers rob

i only asked him about what we could do for the aircooled cup cars as we cant run a wing. i didnt ask him about a front splitter device. from what ive overheard its not all bad to have a bit of a bigger gap at the front of the car that tapers down as it goes under as the effect is that the air is squeezed and forced under the car as a faster rate than the air moving over the top of the car, and as faster air has alower pressure it sucks the car down. trying to keep all the air from geting under the front of a car will not create a vacuum but will create turbulent air at a higher pressure than the top of the car and would cause lift (hence the flat pan so you dont get turbulent air gathering under the fuel tank, above the geabox, around the engine and under the wings/running boards. i can find out if he's going to the volksworld show and if your car is there ill get him to cast an eye over it.

judgie March 22nd 2006 16:42

cheers :D

beetle1303 March 22nd 2006 17:55

Judge, are you going to the volksworld show? I am going for sure. It would be nice to gather up and meet each other. I will post this at the "off topic" as well...

Chris

judgie March 22nd 2006 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetle1303
Judge, are you going to the volksworld show? I am going for sure. It would be nice to gather up and meet each other. I will post this at the "off topic" as well...

Chris

yes i will be at the show all weekend and so will the race car,inside on display :D got all next week of to get it ready.
shall we say 1 o'clock saturday at my car? any body else up for it?
cheers rob

Racelook March 22nd 2006 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimby
trying to keep all the air from geting under the front of a car will not create a vacuum but will create turbulent air at a higher pressure than the top of the car and would cause lift

This is, I think, not correct because an earlier formule 1 team had mounted flaps under there cars for (out my head) 1 year and they were much quicker only because of that. And because of the air that speeds up over the top of the car and got down at the back.. sucked the underside of the car vacuum.
At the end of that year it was immideately forbitten.

Wiebrand (p.s. flattening and flaps are also things I want to do in the future to the underside of my car)

volkdent March 23rd 2006 02:29

I think this thing is over the top, but I like the front dam idea quite a bit. I'm going to be doing something similar with mine, but more subtle.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/263217.jpg

beetle1303 March 23rd 2006 10:25

You bet im going to be there... :D :D

That just made my day.

beetle1303 March 23rd 2006 10:34

You bet im going to be there... :D :D

That just made my day.

judgie March 23rd 2006 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkdent
I think this thing is over the top, but I like the front dam idea quite a bit. I'm going to be doing something similar with mine, but more subtle.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/263217.jpg

very close to what is going on my car next week.
what you have to remember is for a race car "looks" come second place to function.
cheers rob

Wally March 23rd 2006 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by judgie
what you have to remember is for a race car "looks" come second place to function.
cheers rob

For a true street German-style car as well, mind you ;)

zeroaxe March 23rd 2006 18:59

Erm, help me out here(I'm with stupid!)..., but why/waht are those little amber lights on all the Bugs?

Cheers!

jonas_linder March 24th 2006 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeroaxe
Erm, help me out here(I'm with stupid!)..., but why/waht are those little amber lights on all the Bugs?

Cheers!


I would guess turnsignals ;)

judgie March 27th 2006 14:55

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this is what i fitted today
cheers rob


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