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boygenius August 21st 2004 21:30

TYPE 4 report...
 
Well I just got a 2.0 914 type 4 "GA" code with a new DTM stage 3 kit and kennedy flywheel. The engine is in need of a little freshening up. There are no cross hatches left on the inside of the cylinders so I figure it is time for an overbore to 96mm. I will probably replace the cam since the valves were tight and there is probably some wear on the lobes. I want to rebuild it on a reasonable budget, up to $1500.... What are some options for me to consider while parts shopping for my engine...

zen August 21st 2004 21:59

very cool on that deal. leaves you more cash for the upgrades. :D

so is the $1500 more or including that deal? you will have $350-$1000 in exhaust depending on which way you go. is it FI or carbs? some good options there. GO CERAMIC LIFTERS. :rolleyes: $400 or so there.

boygenius August 21st 2004 22:10

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Originally Posted by zen
very cool on that deal. leaves you more cash for the upgrades. :D

so is the $1500 more or including that deal? you will have $350-$1000 in exhaust depending on which way you go. is it FI or carbs? some good options there. GO CERAMIC LIFTERS. :rolleyes: $400 or so there.


$1,500 more just to rebuild the engine not including exhaust or carbs. All I got was a longblock that was FI, but all that was removed. The Ceramic lifters are a no brainer after seeing all the research, and what can happen with cheap lifters. :bawling:

I checked the heads and there were no cracks between the valves. :D

zen August 21st 2004 22:40

i have a full 914 FI system minus the greneade if you are interested. VKG brother discount. :agree:

boygenius August 21st 2004 22:49

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Originally Posted by zen
i have a full 914 FI system minus the greneade if you are interested. VKG brother discount. :agree:


Would that work with a DTM.
More custom work. :rolleyes:
I was kinda leaning toward some dual Dells... :agree:

Greneade???

NO_H2O August 22nd 2004 00:32

Have Jake pick the cam and send the heads to Ham Inc. Search for a set of 40 Dells. Send the parts to Jake for bal. and build a screaming 2056. :agree:

boygenius August 22nd 2004 11:40

Does HAM INC have a website so I can check on some prices. What can I expect to pay for the head labor. I was just going to de-carbonize the heads and lap the valves into the seats to clean everything up. Do I need bigger valves? Do I need porting?

I will bring my crank + rods + flywheel to Taccoa and Give them to Jake there to save on shipping. :agree:

zen August 22nd 2004 12:18

[QUOTE=boygenius]Would that work with a DTM.
[QUOTE]

no, i am being stupid. although jake can hook you up on his new FI system he is putting on his engines. $$$$$$$. go with the dells.

vujade August 22nd 2004 12:55

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Originally Posted by boygenius
Does HAM INC have a website so I can check on some prices. What can I expect to pay for the head labor. I was just going to de-carbonize the heads and lap the valves into the seats to clean everything up. Do I need bigger valves? Do I need porting?

I will bring my crank + rods + flywheel to Taccoa and Give them to Jake there to save on shipping. :agree:

you dont need to go bigger with the valves...
my 2320 has 42 x 36 valves, so Im sure you can keep stock valves with a 2056.

head labour for keeping stock valves should be around $200 per head I would think.

NO_H2O August 22nd 2004 13:56

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Originally Posted by boygenius
I will bring my crank + rods + flywheel to Taccoa and Give them to Jake there to save on shipping. :agree:

You will need to have the rest of the spinning parts to do a Bal. job. Pressure plate, bearings, rings, pins, etc. There is a list on Jakes site.

boygenius August 22nd 2004 14:41

[QUOTE=zen][QUOTE=boygenius]Would that work with a DTM.
Quote:


no, i am being stupid. although jake can hook you up on his new FI system he is putting on his engines. $$$$$$$. go with the dells.

I didn't think so but I was looking at it as a new challenge. :laugh:

boygenius August 22nd 2004 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by vujade
you dont need to go bigger with the valves...
my 2320 has 42 x 36 valves, so Im sure you can keep stock valves with a 2056.

head labour for keeping stock valves should be around $200 per head I would think.


What all do they do for the $200 per head... :confused:

yetibone August 22nd 2004 17:20

Probably replace the valves, seats, and guides.

HAM will likely go further than that, and it may cost more than $200. He'll time-cert the plug bosses, replace all the studs including S/S exhaust studs, mabye upgrade the valves, and springs too depending on how hard you want to turn it.

Len has done 2 sets of heads for me so far, a set for my 2270, and a set for a customer with a 914 2.0. His work is EXCELLENT :agree: and very thourough with great attention to detail (he radiused my valve stems for Christ's sake :D ) He stays pretty busy, so count on 2-3 months turn around time.

Go ahead an get in line for the lifters now too, 'cause it took me 6 months to get mine :eek: .

PARTS:
1.7 litre rockers
Hydro-cam havin' 2.0 litre Vanagon rocker spacers (they're solid)
911 valve adjusters (they swivel)
Schaedeck 30mm Type I oil pump
WebCam cam gear clearanced for the oil pump
Full-flow pump cover (if you want more oil volume than the stock filter)
A pair of DRLA40's from eBay carb man in Italy
Linkage, hex bar and filters from CB
Intakes from AC.net (tall one's, for use with the DTM)
Ahnendorp/BAS header, or Tangerine superheader ($$$$)

Ask Jake about some sealing tins if you didn't get any with your DTM, or I have the templates to roll your own if you need 'em.

boygenius August 22nd 2004 18:14

Well I will see just what condition they are in after I get them all cleaned up in the parts washer at work. If they need any large amout of work I will send them off to HAM to get done. This is supposed to be a budget engine and already my wallet is hurting with all the options. I feel confident in replacing the valve guides if they are worn out but anymore than that and I think paying for the experience is cheaper than screwing up.

boygenius August 28th 2004 18:54

B.A.S. price list.
 
Well the title says it all. I tried veiwing the price list after I downloaded it and it is in a format not supported by my software. If someone has the pricelist in their computer could you please tell me the price for the 21152 and the 21152E header systems. Thanks...


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