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project re-build
we here goes another build thread of the RE-build of my new german look bug that got totaled 2 months ago. i also posting it in the euro look forum cause theirs never any action in here and this build fits the thread well. heres the thread on my previous car/crash incident...
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewto...?f=18&t=141389 so with all that said in the previous thread of the car getting wrecked, now is the time that i show you all what i bought. i drove up to denver and found a 75 super beetle thats originally a viper green beetle LaGrande edition. i found out that all 75 hard top supers where LeGrande editions. it just had a respray of the factory color viper green, and was "claimed to be rust free.....!" so i went up to denver and bought it with really not looking at it too close, but at the time i didnt care cause it was a 75 and thats what i wanted. heres the pics of it on the trailer ready for the drive home. the car is complete, but was undrivable cause the previous owner didnt put in any of the windows yet. so it had to be trailed home. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...223_163553.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...223_163629.jpg after close inspection of the car once i got it home, it proved to not be so "rust free" so again...let the work begin. ive had the car now for 2 weeks. im making good progress i think. hoping to have it ready for paint by monday, but ill see how that pans out. either way i want it painted by the end of this week providing we dont get too busy at work. heres all the pics of the RUST on this rust free car..lol http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...226_092254.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...226_094454.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...226_094616.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...226_105653.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...9.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...6.jpg~original the guy decided to shave all the trime holes with body filler, so i had to chase all them down and weld them all up... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original heater channel had some rust as well... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...5.jpg~original all my repair panels that i could buy came in the mail yesterday. since you cant buy bumper brackets for the 5mph impact shock type...im converting it to the older style and i hat to get a new front apron as well cause i need one with the ac vents since i run a waterboxer motor and my radiator up front. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original i also had to do a lot of rust repair in the engine bay. so i decided to go for a shaved engine bay and im gonna try and hide all the wiring. so we will see. i also got rid of all the panels for the rubber seal for the aircooled motor since i dont need them and getting rid of them gives me more room in the engine bay area. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...9.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original i realize that i made the passenger side panel a little off and ill be fixing it today as well. well thats my progress so far. i also got my turbo flanges made and ill try and shoot for it to be turbo'd by summer as well. ill do my best to keep this thread updated. im gonna stretch my skills on this build and see just how nice of a car i can make it be as a germanlook. my overall goal for this car is to keep it clean and simple with the modifications. i want a awesome driver. one that i can go anywhere in and not have a worry. let the build begin. |
very cool, sunroof and R&P. I bet it will be a very nice GL.
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thanks. its a bit more rusty than i had hoped for, but oh well. later in my life when i have a garage and more time and space to blow the car fully apart, i can see me finding more rust. but for now it will have to do. it will still be nice in the end. today im gonna get started on the front with getting the front apron installed, and front bumper mounts.
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I read your post on STF, that sucks about your car getting hit. Maybe I missed it but what happened with the insurance company and your first car? Were you able to buy it back?
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Good find, shame about the rust. We never had steel sun roof cars down here, I'm very envious. Viper green metallic was on my short list of colours for my bug. Steve |
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The insurance company that the guy hit me had state farm insurance. The body shop that I work at is a preferred state farm repair shop. So I was kinda worked out in my favor. Long story short...with me buying my car back, state farm cut me a check for $3795.00. And I was happy with that cause that gave me enought to get another super tuat I can take all my goodies off my totalled car and put it all on a new one. @steve c Ya the viper green color I want very crazy about at first, but it surly has grown on me. Im really pushing to get tue main body in paint this week! I wanna start putting this car togather!!! |
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I remember seeing a Viper Green Metalic 1302 on a Kafer Cup racer, loved it from then on. Does anybody offer classic car insurance in the US. I have both my Beetles with a company called Shannons. The white bug is insured for $12,000 and the orange bug is insured for $25,000, neither amount would cover what I have spent on them but as part of the deal is getting the wreck back something can be made of what's left over. Steve |
they do have classic car insurance here in the states as well. i plan on getting that for this car for sure. also ill be posting update pics tonight of my progress over the last 2 days.
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well heres my progress. i found rust in the passenger strut tower in the inner fender. really i want to some day in the future fix it right by just getting a whole new quarter, but i cant really afford a new one, so ill have to just do a "so so" repair for now. it turned out ok. ill just get on with the photos. its all self explanatory...lol
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...5.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...6.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original i got a question for every one. whats all your opinion: should paint all my bumpers, door handles, hood handles ect.... flat black, or color match everything? |
oh i almost forgot the best shot..... i got my paint in today...yay.
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Inspiring, good job. Was wondering what are you using for welder? Flux core, or what gas combo for sheet metal being used.. I plan on getting restarted on my effort in summer.. I have a Miller 100 something or other that I got from HD. Came as standard 120V 15A (system) w/ flux core but also have the gas conversion.. New in box, and hopefully will break it out.. Thanks Alex |
actually i did about 90% of the welding with a 220v snap-on welder with using gas (its the shop welder that we have at the bodyshop that i work at). i ran out of gas so i had to switch to my little 110v century welder using fluxcore. fluxcore is ok to use. if your new at welding sheet metal i would not recommend fluxcore cause it seems to take more heat to get a good weld. thats just my personal experience with it. a old welder trick to save on buying the 75/25 mix welding gas is to use just strait O2 for welding gas. and now thats all i use for my personal stuff. its like half the cost of the mixed welding gas. but its up to you.
if you need any help putting in panels, let me know and ill help any way that i can. btw i love your 5 speed conv. kits you have. one day i would love to have one of your kits in my car. my car with the WBX motor in it now, the stock 3:88 r&p tranny just isnt nearly enough gearing for this new motor. of corse i have a lot smaller dia. tires now than the stock 165's. but im looking at a freeway flyer tranny here soon. best of luck to ya on your panel repair....no matter what, take your time with tacking in new sheet metal. too much heat and it will warp and you just made a whole lot more body work for your self. just my .02 |
Thanks for the reply...
I was more proficient with straight arc welding when I was getting my Merchant Marine Liscense many moons ago.. I don't have too much time on a mig but will follow urs and other advice.. Thanks for the kind words on my partner Martin's Kits.. Take care Alex |
well ive surly been busy the last 2 days. but its shiney again. time for me to start work on my fenders. i got to widen them...but im gonna attempt to widen them from the outside. i also figured while i was in their...why not just smooth the engine bay...so it did that too. planning on hiding and tucking all the wires as well when the motor goes in. well on with the pics...
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quick update....
ive tried to widen my own fenders, but that has not worked how i had thought, so instead, im just gonna order some flared fenders from fiberglass specialties. save weight, lot less work, and i think ill be able to pull them off quite well. well since ive decited to get 4 new fiberglas fenders, im waiting on my tax money to come in so i can afford the fenders. so that leaves me with a lot of other things that can now get done. tonight i swapped over my front suspension from my 73 sb to my 75 sb. i was gonna not run these wheels, but the all black really ties in well with the green. heres all the pics... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...5.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...0.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...9.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original |
It is coming together nicely.
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Nice work!
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I am really digging that colour!! Looking good!!
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update time. this weekend i got all my suspension/ brakes switched over and wheels. tonight i also got my coolant pipes painted as well. hoping that tomarrow ill get to install the coolant pipes/radiator into the new bug. as always...onto the pics.
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Nice! I like the color too! A friend of mine has a very similar color on his 1303 GL also.
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today i got the cooling pipes, and radiator all installed. on with the pics.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...6.jpg~original i first started by cutting out the spare wheel well. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original then i removed the metal piece that unbolts from the pan head. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original here you can see the new one i made from my old car and the original one. this new mount will now be the lower radiator mount. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original heres the radiator installed http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...6.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original and lastly i got the cooland pipes installed. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original |
Looking nice! Having a 1303 certainly makes the radiator install easier. I agree on the stock 3.88 R&P gearing being too low for the WBX especially with smaller rolling radius tyres - my rears are 215/40r17 and while it is certainly rapid on back roads and I frequently hit 100mph :D in it on the way to work, it's not ideal for long distance cruising. I have a 915 box waiting to go in and when I rebuilt it I realised that was 3.88 R&P and 0.82 5th, so effectively a freeway flyer in top - should be nice :)
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My motor right now is stock. It does have the AMC heads on it. I have it running on megasquirt efi controlling fuel and spark. As this car gets built, I have a turbo that will be gong on it.
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little update guys/gals. progress has slowed up a bit due to funds and now i think i caught the flew. im HOPING i can get back to the shop monday and get some more work done to it. we will see. just waiting on my tax returns so i can get a headliner put in it, and 4 new fiber glass fenders. but i did manage to get my driver side seat mounts made and installed, and i installed my sunroof and polished and painted all the goodies that go inside of it.
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i know its been awhile since ive had some good things to update about. well over the past 2 weeks or so its been just ordering lots of parts, and playing the waiting game. i got my box of goodies in from mid america. in it i got my headliner, but im waiting on my interior guy to call me and let me know when he is ready for it. so while im waiting, ive gotten the door handles, trunk, and decklid handles all painted. i choose to go with Atlas Gray...its also a O.E. factory vw color. it came on the mk2 golf/jetta's. a cool idea i had going into this build was to try and use all O.E. vw colors. but the color looks GREAT aginst the green. also my fenders came in today from Markvfiberglass. i bought the flaired fenders. they look good and what not, but....after doing the whole " lets hold them up against the car and see how they fit"...well im fairly unhappy with the fitment. so they will need some creative fiber-glassing to make work right. also the headlight buckets are closed in. if anyone has any info as to what headlight buckets i need to get or how i mount/mount the trim ring, please chime in. well as always..on to the pics.
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Wow, I love how the painted door handles pop against the green, I think you just convinced me to do some similar. How wide are the fenders from markv?
As far as the headlight buckets go, just make a paper template from a headlight assembly and mock it up before you do any cutting. Use tape to hold the headlight rings for mock up. Since there's no lip to retain the top of the rings I used a small flat head screw to do the job on my race bug and haven't had any problems. |
cool thanks humble, could i ask you if you could post up some pics of how you mounted them? the fenders are 1 1/2 inch wider over stock... basically the width of the flared lip.
well tonight i got to work on my fenders. since they really didnt fit well at all/ if any, i dreamed up a way to solve the issue. what i did was i cut the mounting lip off my stock steel fender. then i mounted that to the car and got it squared up. then i cut the mounting lip off my fiberglass fender. then i set the fiberglass fender onto the steel lip that i bolted to the car. i then used some panel bond epoxy to help bond the fiberglass to the metal. i used some self tap metal screws to hole the fender in place and in shape that it needs to be. once the epoxy dries ill then pull the fender off, and ill fiberglass the inner part of the fender where it meats the metal lip. all in hopes it stays put and doesnt fall apart...lol. well i got home tonight and got my CB performance turbo header in today as well with my fuel rails, and crankcase breather/ filler. well as always..on to the goods. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...a.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...9.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...a.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...d.jpg~original |
Nice project! Keep on going!
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Great build! I had been planning on something of similar look!:D
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well heres some more updates. sorry its been awhile guys, but i have been busy. i got the fenders all sorted to a livable state. their still far from perfect in my eyes, but they will work till i can afford some other flaired fiberglass fenders, or just get some stock steel ones and flair them, but all in due time i suppose.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...d.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...c.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2.jpg~original yes the rear will settle quie a bit once the motor goes in. now that i got the fenders outta the way, i can get started on the motor stuff later this week im hoping. |
Looks like it is coming together very well.
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update time. i got my pedals painted tonight, and i got my caliper brackets tacked in place so tomarrow i can tig weld them togather. im trying out a caliper upgrade that i found out about that a lot of the 914 guys do. its a 4 pistom caliper. lot more braking surface. im really trying to get this car running by April 20th. well on to the pics.
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update time.
i got the motor installed into my new car. i got all my fuel lines ran, and also my fuel regulator installed. i opted to hard line all the fuel lines in the engine bay. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...7.jpg~original now it was time to add the oh so important power adder. lol http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...4.jpg~original here is the turbo mocked up. the up pipe i made, ill take that down to the muffler shop and have them bend me one out of one piece of tubing http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...f.jpg~original hoping to have her running here very soon. then i HOPE its all down hill from their. |
Looking good so far. Are you going to run a charge cooler? What are those calipers from?
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I'm curious - is your centre plenum a standard one from a WBX I haven't seen before, or is it a modified one? I've not seen a factory WBX with the throttle-body on top before, only off to the side towards #1 cylinder. |
@no_h20 Moog is right. their off a volvo 240. their 4 piston calipers that have solid rotors on a volvo 240. it took some work as i had to basically part off the original caliper mounting off the bracket. then i made my own mounting brackets out of 3/4 inch thick steel that i then welded to the brackets. should stop a lot better now given the added power of the turbo.
i do plan on running an intercooler. my biggest issue right now is do i run it under the deck lid? or do i get some duck tail wing and put an intercooler in that much like how Wally has his mounted. im looking for options/ ideas on this. i want to run an air to air intercooler cause of its simplicity way more so than a air to water intercooler set up. i really want to keep it as simple as i can. @Moog yes i took the stock WBX plenum and made a mounting flange and mounted a throttle body out of a 2.0L Hyundai. i did this cause i needed one with a TPS and i also wanted the better location that i have it now. |
heres a quick update from what ive gotten done over the last 3 or so days. i got most of the motor mocked up and them took it all back apart to get everything looking the part like the rest of the car. my good friend that has a drag bug was able to hook me up with a cool mini alternator. i fabed up a bracket quick, then i painted it the atlas gray, and i painted the turbo, and intake manifolds the same green as my car. i also got a new up pipe made up from the exhaust shop. the bad part is that im gonna have to cut a hole in my left side inner fender well for the down pipe to go thru. well onto the pics as always.
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That's a whole lotta green.
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Looking good, I'm quiet fond of water to air inter coolers in rear engined cars, with quality parts they are very reliable. Steve |
sorry everyone thats been watching this build thread of mine. as of before this past weekend ive just been crazy busy with building this car, trying to get it done for a show (WUSTE Vegas) that ive wanted to take it to. well my hard work paid off. its now 90% done. heres some of the pics leading up to the finished product. im VERY happy with the out come. altho i didnt win anything this year, over this next year im hoping to get the car really dialed in and getting to make it back next year hoping to maybe place. well heres the pics everyone. im hoping you all love it as much as i do. on the the pics.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...5.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...b.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...2.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...0.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...8.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...3.jpg~original heres me loaded and ready for the big WUSTE vegas euro show. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...8.jpg~original and lastly, pics from the show. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...c.jpg~original http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...5.jpg~original i feel i built quite a proper german look and i added a few tweeks of my own to make it fit more to todays standards. again...im super happy with it. |
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