Uprights for double a arm suspension?
 

Im lookin for a set of uprights to use for my double a arm suspension. THe vw ones would work but id rather get a set that has the ball joint mounts further apart and a set that has lots of rim and break options. here is what im lookin for

1. Lots of wheel options
2. Prepherably used on another double a-arm car
3. Good breaks stock or good upgrades.
4. Fairly cheap and popular

Are their any other consideration I should look out for?

Im thinkin fiero would be a good option. Also some other cars like toyota supra and other 80 early 90's sportscars. Thanks

Anybody????

toyota supra, but the wrecker will probably want too much fro them.

Uprights.. you mean spindles... same thing but different name...

My 1987 RX-7 had aluminum lower control arms and steel upper arms. 10.5" rotors with 4 pot calipers. It would do 130mph to 0mph all day long without missing a beat. I think it was 5 X 112 lug pattern or something close so there would be alot of wheel options. Hope this is what you were looking for. :)

It seems the early 928 Porsche front suspension is a popular choice with the guys doing the conversion. The early 928 parts are cheap also. Mid 80's S4 cars have the bigger brakes and will cost more money. Both have the right bolt pattern for some P-car wheels.

Thanks,

Randy

I like the rx7 idea seeing how their are tons in the junkyards. Ill have to check out how they mount up. I was thinkin porsche but it seems ill be limited in rim choices and getting stock parts might get expensive. I might try hondas. Tons of rim and break options.

honda uses a mcferson strut front suspension.

I thought they used a multi link suspension kinda like nissan uses. Anybody have any experience with fiero spindles?

Don't go 928. They are a big pain in the butt. I have a set of 928 S spinles and rotors sitting in my garage, but I'm not going to use them as the mounting point for the rack and pinion is very low, while the AC VW setup has them high. Think about where your steering will be before you purchase. Take a look at the relationship of the steering knuckle to the wheel center on the stock setup when you go looking. RX7 sounds good, but I havn't seen what they look like. Keep us posted. I'm using stock Karmann Ghia right now for my conversion.

Jason

I want a rear steer setup like the vw has. I hear that has some advantages all of wich I forget right now but I do know it would be easier as far as packaging goes. Thanks for bringing that up I totally forgot about that factor.

mustang 2
 

hot rodders choice?

I was going to say talk to rodders, they will know...

what generation of rx7would you use? I just snagged the calipers off a rx7 turbo, and the front end was definatly macpherson, it did have nice alloy lower arms though.

as to the 928 uprights, they would probably work if a guy torched the frame head and buill up your own assembly.

I think the RX-7 rack and pinion steering can be adapted to fit in a super bettle so maybe the RX-7 suspension would be the best bet. The second generation (1986-1991) have aluminum lower arms. I'm not sure about the older ones. Just make sure that you get the correct suspension you want. Thebase model had 4 lug wheels but the GXL and the turbo models had 5 lug wheels. The one I owned had electronicly controlled suspension. That might be some thing for you to play with. Oh a drifting I will go, a drifting I will go, high ho the dairy oh, a drifting I will go. :laugh:

was the rx7 mac strut? I was readin a UK car builder forum and chevy s-10 spindles came up. IF anybody else has a suggestion im all ears.

Independant coil over struts in alll four corners. If I had a scanner I would show you some diagrams from my manual that I still have. Take a look at the rear suspension also. The whole thing looks like it unbolts from the body. I wish I still had my car so I could take some measurements for you.

This is the best attempt I've seen yet with familiar(in both senses of the word) parts.

Ricola Racing KG Wishbone Suspension

I haven't forgotten about it :rolleyes:

Hope to get back onto it when I finish my new daily driver which should be in a month or two...

Rich

I checked out the RX7 and its got the funny top mac strut mount. I know I can make a mount out of it but I was hopin to find a spindle that was more ready to use right from the box. The fireo upright looks pretty good but im not sure. Im gonna have to check out what some others have done. Ill post what I find out if anybody is interested. If you are just post or give me a PM

Before you get too excited about something non-VW, check out typeIV spindles same as 914 porsche I think, or again, the stock ones.

Please post. I love to see the way people modify their cars. I am always interested in learning something new.

Alright I found a guy thats using some 1st gen MR2 spindles. I really like the way he set it up and I might just steal a few of his ideas.

http://www.newtier.com/graber/mid-en.../IMG_1862.html

This guy is using some modified rx7 spindles

http://members.cox.net/kimini2003/di...ront%20hub.jpg

And these spindles look like a really good option but I dont know where he got em. Im gonna send him an email and ill tell what I find out. His site says they accept ford sierra bearings but he never says what the upright is called

http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/websi...sion_page1.htm


Oh BoyGenius all 3 sites have tons of info and pics of all 3 awesome cars. Going through the sites I was really impresses in the quality of the garage built racecars.

http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/index.html
http://www.grabercars.com/diarymain.html
http://members.cox.net/kimini22/car/

And here is another sweet site with lots of cars with fiero equipment

http://www.lambolounge.com/index.asp

I believe that SAAB uses A arm type suspension up front

Hey Miller,

The one site you found, The Kimini 2.2, is a very good friend of Bob who is working on the design of mine! I should be getting some progress coming along soon as Bob is getting back on my project.

Jason

Hey if your not using those spindles I might take em off your hands. Im pretty making a tube frame pan so the low pickup points shouldnt be a problem. Having the rack lower will help my COG too. I just dont like that fact that the porsche bolt pattern dosent have many rim choices.

Hey Miller,

I'm not sure you want these for a few reasons.

1) Weight-the spindles and and especially the rotors are very heavy, unsprung weight is definately an issue.

2) Though you can go with a tube chassis and mount the rack low, I think you'll find other problems cropping up with the steering shaft location and getting from there to the rack. I'm not saying it can't be done, but your going to have your hands full with a lot of other stuff without adding that.

3) Cost-check out the neighborhood of price I'll be thinking about by going to 928 International and checking out the used suspension parts section. You'll need the spindles, two sets of adjustment cams, rotors, lower ball joints, and eventually those fat calipers!

Let me know.

No progress as of late here, but on the rear end I'm coming along nicely.

Jason

I looked into the 2nd and 3rd gen rx7 breaks. 4-pison great lookin breaks. I think the rx7 uprights are the winner. Rim choice is a kosei k-1. Should be nice.

My 2nd gen rx-7 would stop on a dime from 130mph time and time again without brake fade.

Man reading that I REALLY need to get out to the u-pull and check some of em out. IT would also get my pickup points closer to the rim. The VW ones are just to close together for my liking.

Honda accord
 

The old boring looking Honda Accord is one of the best handling cars around.. double A-arm suspension all round I believe.
It corners very flat.


MG

They are aluminium parts too which would help with unsprung mass...