Flared fenders, opinions
 

I have been thinking a lot about what im going to do for new fenders for my 1303, im not a vintage purest who needs to use stock fenders, im looking for somthing is fiberglass.
CCC is the ticket for quality fiber fenders from what i here.
Anyways, im fairly set of using Porsche 16" Fuchs. I have a set of four 16"/6" Fuchs right now, i was plaining on selling/trading two of them for some 16"/7" ones for the rear.
I am going to use early Porsche 944 brakes front and rear (Rears done, need parts for front setup).

I have a combo question here. First off, do you guys think Fuchs and flared fenders are a good combo? now a day i only see late model porsche wheels...ect with flared fenders so i dont have any examples of this combo. Accually for me, there was this one black 1303 with ATS wheels and flared fenders that got me hooked to the GL style way back when i was 13 (im 18 now). the wheels where deepdish 15 inch ATS wheels. it looked hot for sure, very old school, but non the less "Sick".
Also is this size combo i was looking for a good combo with flared fenders (16"/ 6"&7" Fuchs) or would it look funny with some what mid sized wheels in flared fenders, even if i spaced them out if needed to be close to the fender lip?
Does any one have examples of flares and Fuchs, super beetles or not (a 1303 would be premo)?

OR.... should i look for a different Wheel combo that works better with the flares and early 944 brakes? If its going to look to wack, then i wont hesitate to use normal wider fenders and Fuchs, its just that on some cars flares look way cool and mean, but i have seen some that are just uggly or not exicuted well. I dont really want to go with heave/expensive 17 inch rims becuase this is also a Auto-x car, aswell as a track car and daily driver for the summer months (We have snow on the ground for over 5 months of the year most winters, Thats where the Audi 4000 Quattro comes into play;)

So... Opinions?

Thanks,
Jonathan

If you just want the look of flared fenders I would flare them out a little. I like the look of flared fender as long as the flare isn't too large. If you stick to less than 3/4" flare so it's just noticeable I think it will look good. Anymore flare than that and I think that it looks like your car is going to flap it's wings and fly away. :laugh: Anyway I think that the 3/4" flared fenders lowered on 16" fuchs that are pushed out to the lip of the fender would look bad a$$. That is just my opinion. :D

I think the biggest consideration with flared fenders is where the wheel/tire combo is in relation to the flare itself ... more so than what wheel is being used.

1303 with flared fenders and Fuchs just looks cool.

Alrighty, so i test fitted some 6 and 7 by 16 inch fuchs today with 205 and 225 tires.
It looks like i will need a 3 inch flare in the rear and a 2 inch flare in the front.
So the question is who makes the best flared fenders? for a decent price to.

Thanks!
Jonathan

Mark V in the US http://www.markvfiberglass.com

In Germany, Kerscher Tuning http://www.kerscher-tuning.de
or Customs Speed Parts http://www.csp-shop.de

Flared fenders from Mark V are for standard Beetles only.

Sorry man, I'm looking at their website now and they have front, and rear super beetle fenders for sale, I know the rear is the same as a standard, but they do offer front super beetle fenders. :laugh:

The ones by them seam to not flow as well, they have more of a lip and dont buldge out like some i have seen.
The ones on the silver GL 1303 thats featured on this site are the ones/style im looking for.
I think Kerscher has them, but those are WAY expensive (somthing like 200+ Euro each)

Thanks,
Jonathan

I don't think that you will need fenders that wide. I thought that 6" and 7" wheels would fit under the stock fenders. :confused:

almost, with the early 944 brakes it makes them stick out. the 6/6 combo works in the rear almost by about 1/2 inch the front is about the same i think.
I dont have all my parts (no 17mm ball joints) so i had to just mock up using the stock ball joints and such. i know its not real accurate, and once i get the car back on the ground i can then make a final judgment call on what wheels im going to use, and exactly what size fenders i would need.

Yep, you're right. When I did the search the first time, I didn't notice a page two with items 11-19. Although I know I want/need fiber fenders with width, I haven't decided on flares or not. Thanks for the correction.

Hi Guys,
I'm not a regular poster on here but do lurk a lot. Flared fenders - I have to tell you the most awesome Bug I ever saw with flared fenders was an old Hot VW's article (or maybe it was VW Greats? - dating myself here....) - I think it was called Down Under Ground Pounder or something like that. Mind you, this was back when the Cal Look style was just getting started and you just didn't see any tricked out Bugs in any other style, at least any other "tasteful" style!
This Bug was built by a company in Australia, and the flared fenders had a fully formed lip. I mean the flare not only extended out wider, but then rolled down to have a sort of semi-vertical outer surface. Kind'a hard to explain, but the look was "it"! Can't remember if it had ATS or Porsche alloys, but the stance was low and mean. It also had a front bumber cover that extended back on the top to near the body surface, with a simple air-dam lip extending down below. On the rear, the ubiquitous whale tail - but a tasteful size, not the overbearing size of the CCC version. Custom seats and gauges inside, with a take no prisoners 2180 under the lid. This car looked right, and was set up for the curves. Porsche red on the outside, black interior. If any "old timers" here were into VWs back in the early 70's you'd probably remember this car - it was definitely unique at the time. Now That's the kind of fender flares to run!

Jeff

www.eastwood.com has a fender roller. Part # 31158 and it costs $249.99 but I don't know if it will roll them out far enough.

Like these. :D

that style is quite neat, looks kinda like a porsche widebody more than anything. Not what im looking for though.

Im looking for this:
http://www.luftboxer.com/race_09.jpg

http://www.luftboxer.com/race_53.jpg

http://www.luftboxer.com/histo02_13.jpg

Later,
Jonathan

That's pretty similar BG, though on the car I remember they weren't quite as wide as that silver car. The overall shape of the lip and rolled down edge very similar though. Most flared fenders just have the flared edge sticking out, not a good thing for aero or looks IMO. I'll have to look through my old stack of magazines and see if I still have that article. If so I'll scan it and figure out a way to post it.

Jeff

It might have been from a company called Aerolook (who I don't think exist anymore). You can see what the fenders look like in this link: http://www.clubvw.org.au/steve.htm

Cheers!

Don't think those are the ones CPRCubed. Those look near identical to the CCC fenders - basically just widened versions of the stock fenders. The Aerolook fenders have some detail differences from CCC, but same basic idea. The fenders I'm referring to had a definite flare extending out from the stock fenderline. I'll have to look and see if I can find that old magazine.

Jeff

I looked into the CSP (custom & speed parts) fenders, they have no pics but im sure they are the ones i am looking for. they would cost me around $900 USD shipped though, and thats WAY to much for fenders for me (hey im still in school).

CCC has the stock style widened fenders for around $150 a fender, thats more resonable but still a little expensive.
I really would like to use flared fenders but its not looking to good, and might have to get the CCC stock style ones if i cant find some flared ones at a resonable price.

Are there any sources for the style i listed above? other than CSP or Kercher(as there are even more money)???

Thanks!
Jonathan

Why not get a junk fender and try creating the flares yourself. :confused:

Give it a try, what's the worst that could happen. :D

Take a look.
part number. 31158
www.eastwood.com

Well, to tell you the truth, i want to. but i lack the tools and know how on sheet metal forming. Infact i am going to college here soon and some of the classes i want to take are welding and metal fab classes. as im very into metal fab but like i said, lack the tools and know how. I want to look into a career in custom fabing of cars..ect and or mechanical enginering.

That fender roller is to just roll the inside lip and not to add flares. you can do the same with a baseball bat aswell. but i need inches not fractions of an inch in width that a rolled fender would add.

I figured It was worth a try. :laugh:

Everything is worth a try! (well most of the time) :D

The instuctions for the fender tool say that it can roll out arches and flare fenders. You might want to contact the company and ask just how much of a flare their tool can make.

I dont see how it could work on a beetle fender at least, it would be almost impossible to get a flare that looks right with that, if at all.

Im still not totaly sure about the flares now, im thinking it would look more sleeperish if i just did widened fenders, but how would the bumpers look with winder stock style fenders?

I think that some of the fiberglass companies sell widened bumbers to match their fenders. You could always cut your stock bumpers up add some more bumper pieces from a scrap bumper and widen them to the width of your wider fenders. Just chop and add some metal and weld back together. you would than have to paint them since the chrome will be ruined. While you are at it you could add some driving light into the front bumpers. Another idea is to ditch the bumpers all together, that's what I'm going to do. ;)

I thought about the widening of bumpers, still not sure if i want to use steel or fiberglass. i do need bumpers, i think beetles look better with bumpers.

I lilke them without bumpers. Wide fenders and lowered with no bumpers. :D Oh yea, don't forget the BIG porsche rims... :laugh:

no problem man, Just trying to help. :D

Mike

Why not consider making GRP fenders yourself? Build a buck (modify from stock fenders), buy some fibreglass materials and resins, have some practice then DIY. I guess it will cost you less than $200 for all four fenders but sure it will take you plenty of time.


http://www.fibreglast.com/content.ph...rksrc=FreeInfo

http://www.luftboxer.com/histo02_13.jpg

Where can I get fenders that look just like these?