Quality Carbon Parts
 

Hi

I started the post looking for a wiring cover a while back, being in the UK I was looking for a European source for CF parts.

I have used CSP and can vouch for there top quality work but their range is rather limited and cant get hold of Remmele at all. I have also had Parts from another supplier but I'm afraid they just weren't good enough so this is a nod for carbon Joe!

Joe's work is top quality and he also got my parts done quickly, and was more than helpful! anyone in the UK wanting CF parts and worried about getting them all the way from the States don't be, shipping on USPS/ Royal mail was roughly a fortnight but quite reasonable.

Again Thanks Joe!!!

Who is "Joe"??? I am also interested in Carbon Fiber Beetle body parts but can't seem to find any available in the US for the '72 Super Beetle...

Thanks for any leads or information.

Do a search for Carbon Joe.

Thanks Very Much!!

I personally talked to CARBON JOE and he wanted me to post a price list of parts that he can currently make! Now he does work 70+ hours at work and travels for work often so he has very little time for much else especially making parts. So if you want some things please email him at carbonjoe@ca.rr.com

Here is the PRICE LIST for you all as well!!

ENJOY!! :)


Fire walls $125.00
Door panels $290.00
Bumpers (a set front & rear) $400.00
Bumper Brackets (4) $150.00
Running boards $260.00
Stone guards $85.00
1303 wiring cover $110.00
Standard wiring cover $135.00
Standard dash cover $190.00
Side scoops $220.00
Kamei style front spoiler $245.00
Roof spoiler $160.00
Late headlight rims $85.00

It would be cool if any one had pictures of what these parts look like on a SB.

ask and you shall receive... give me a few minutes to get them uploaded!!

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I need to get some of those stone guards... ;)

Hey Mike,

Where did you purchase the Carbon Fiber Dash? That is exactly what I am looking for!

Thanks for your time and information,

Ray

It was made by Carbon Joe if I recall correctly?

Is Carbon Joe out of the Carbon Fiber business??? I can't tell from so many threads mentioning him...

Lets make this simple...


CARBON JOE still makes parts occasionally and he told me to let everyone know that if they wanted to get parts to email him at this address carbonjoe@ca.rr.com


If you want to get more info or order parts just email him!!

The price list that I listed above in BLUE is what he is currently making to date!!

Yep. It's a Carbon Joe original... ;)

CAN THERE BE TOOOO MUCH CARBON :D :D
stone guards, running boards, headlight rings,wiring cover,bumpers with brackets,front kamei spoiler,firewall?, porsche fan shroud, roof spoiler??

in process of german look, light metallic blue 1303 :cool:

whats the advantage of carbon fibre??

1. less weight
2. more durable
3. fire proof?
4. is it a total waste painting over the carbon fibe stuff? adding weight??

Carbon fiber is fire proof, the resin that holds it all together is NOT!!!

You havn't seen the pictures of all the new Ferraris burning to a crisp?

Jason

hehe.. not yet.. so is the CF roof spoiler really works??

i would really be interested in getting a dash like that i was wanting to go with carbon fiber trim and other varoius items but i didn't know where to get the dash made. Was yours pricey?

I beleive I paid $175 a few years back. He's getting $190 for them now...

thanks i will have to get in touch and order one

does anyone know where i could get the door handles, decklid, and hood handles done in carbon fiber. If not i was just going to powercoat them black.

CF really only has the advantage when it comes to weight. As pointed out, the carbon fibres are fireproof, but the plastic matrix isn't. As far as durability goes, you're better off with steel parts. CF has a nasty habit of just shattering, where metal parts bend. If you want to paint CF, then have at it. Most people leave it unpainted for bragging rights, but if we are all honest, how much does the paint really weigh once it dries?

Peace be with you

A lot if you listen to Mercedes. In their W196(?) GP cars of the '30s they left the aluminium bodywork unpainted to save the weight of the paint to get within the class weight regulations. Thats where the tag of 'the silver arrows' comes from that has also spawned the culture that German hi-perf cars should be silver.

evilC

hmmm... I know that NASA stopped painting the large orange external fuel tank on the space shuttle to save the weight of the paint (the first two shuttle launches it was white). From published NASA documents, they saved 1000lb (454kg) of weight by not putting a finish coat of paint on it, and since the tank is 27.6ft in diameter, and 153.8 ft long. Ideallizing it as a simple cylinder for ease of calculations, that means it had surface area of around 13330 sq ft (1238m^2). Therefore, the finish coat of paint can be estimated to weigh about 0.075 pounds per square foot (0.37 kilogram per square meter). You could probably double that weight to account for the primer layers, so call it 0.15 lb/ft^2 (0.74kg/m^2).

Anyway, I guess you might be able to save a few kilograms, which might be important for a race car, but it's really not a big difference compared to the 30+ lbs that can be saved just by switching from a steel panel to a composite one.


Peace be with you!

I agree. In fact the weight saving is equal to the weight of the paint in the can before its put in the gun. What it all really boils down to is aesthetics.

As an aside, I was marshalling at an National Autotest last weekend where one of the Caterham lookalikes was virtually fully clothed in CF - unpainted. It did look impressive. Much more importantly it was a real flyer taking the class win. How much of that was down to the CF, overall spec or down to the driver skill I can only imagine.

evilC

Most all the NHRA TA/TF teams now "wrap" their cars vs. paint due to the reduced weight. NASCAR too...

i found a few places where i could get sheets of c/f and i was unsure if it would work, but i know it will form around things when heated up but a door handle i don't know if that would be possible any suggestions?

Hey, by side scoops do you mean the scoops under the rear windows? Or the Empi style scoops, that are placed behind the crescent rear vent????

If you mean fully prepared CF sheets in epoxy, then they won't become any more pliable with heat. Epoxy (and polyester resin, and vinyl ester) is a thermoset plastic. Once it cures, the heat needed to soften it is great than the heat needed to destroy it. The plastic matrix will fail and probably burn before is gets soft enough to form.

Now, alternatively, you could always just get CF cloth and epoxy and lay the carbon up right onto whatever part you're trying to cover, or make a mold of that part and duplicate it in CF.

Peace be with you.

Are you sure it's a weight thing? Since paint isn't that heavy anyway, I would suspect the vinyl that the wrap is made from would be comparable if not heavier. Using a wrap probably just makes getting all of the sponsor decals on and neat easier, plus fancier graphics can be done really cheaply because the vinyl is just printed out. For a real painter to do all the fancy paint work would cost a lot more, and not be as consistent.

What about the weight of the solvent? That's going to evaporate.
I agree that in most cases it's ultimately aesthetics.

i was thinking the scoops under the quarter glass but i could be wrong.

Anyone got a picture of the Roof spoiler CF Joe does?

Thanks

http://www.germanlook.com/gallery/carbonfiber/0369.jpg
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hey this is Some CF that I got From JOE

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Excellent Guys thanks for the pic's

what about CF parts to put where the Wood Look-a-like are in the orginal dashboards??? Can Joe make that?

I don't think he Makes them
but why not just get a Pre-made Sheet and cut out your own
and cover the "WOOD"
http://www.protechcomposite.com/serv...FRfAQAodbQXjEw

Chris.

Once the epoxy matrix is hardened, he won't be able to form it to the shape of the dash.

Your best bet if you want a CF dash is to layup your own CF and epoxy right onto your dash, but getting your fibers lined up all pretty will be tough.