944 spring plates
 

Can I use 944 spring plates with 944 turbo torsion bars? What are the brushings involved? Thanks, I broke the uniball setup twice, so I'm going to use the torsion bar! I'm using the alu trailing arms. Thanks. Cheers, Happy Holidays!

All torsion bars from 924-944-968 are the same length and spline, so: yes.
?? Brushings?
I just know the inner vulcanised 944 rubber bushing needs to be burnt off and replaced with a beetle bushing.
DO tell what parts you exactly used and what happened! Pics would be great too pls.

Thanks Wally for the info, the member coneecting the uniball and the plate broke, I'm still not sure why, it has ruptured at the same place twice, but on the left side its still ok from day one! would going over a pot hole do this damage? I'll get the pics soon.

spring plate info's.
 

I am using 944 alu arms, 944 springplates and torsion bars. I am using a polyeuro beetle inner bushing and a deralin 944 outers.

Bushing removal:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/

before / after:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/

Inner Bushing:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/

inner / outer bushing:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/

torsion bar compare with orange as original vw:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/

944 spring plate cover with extra stuff cutoff and bushing in place:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3931035...7619575747670/

hope that helps.
jmd

Thanks Jmd, great info! Now to finish the job.
Cheers.

I presume you mean where the rod end connects to the spring plate? If so, is the uniball binding so that as the spring plate twists the uniball goes solid and then the only thing to give is the connection?

Clive

Hi

The last set of 944 spring plates I did, I only took off the inner rubber bushings so that I could fit the VW ones, I kept the stock rubber outers and used a cut down 944 retainers.

I've burnt the rubber off in the past, it doesn't feel right heating suspension parts so this time I sliced as much off as I could with a hacksaw and did the rest with a wire buffing wheel on a bench grinder, very messy.

Steve

Thats exactly what I did and have driven with these last 10 years. I now want to make the suspension more direct and precise.

Actually, that is also exactly what I have done now for removal of the outer rubber bushing ;)

Funny..

Is it possible to use early 911 torsion covers?

I thought so, but never used them myself. There is a very good german beetle tuning book on handling ('Bodengruppentherapie') that mentions them though.

here it is. the broken pieces.

Hello Silverbullet

are those the mBT units if I see cerrectly? Didn't they gave you any solve on this problem or at least an explaination of why is this happenning?

Friendly

Dimitrios

Holy cow!! :shocked:
Only now I understand what you meant. Thanks!!

That bolt is only supposed to have a longitudinal force running through it. My only thoughts are that the bolt must have binded somehow, maybe in the torsion house cover plate at the heim joint/uniball or running out of suspension travel and the spring-plate substitute hit the shock tower? Bit like what Clive was saying I guess..

Having looked at the pictures is the uniball binding up on the housing as the spring plate twists? The housing looks a bit restrictive and if it has been shimmed with washers that are reducing the rotation of the housing.

Clive

Sorry for the late reply, I was in Amsterdam, cold! back here in Singapore!
I'm not to sure why the failure, will ask Uwe from MBT about it. The funny thing is that it only happened on the right hand side, the left is still fine from day 1!. Well I got all the stuff to mount the 944 torsion bars and springplates. So, but still still will get to the bottom of the bottom!:)