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-Alex- May 5th 2011 14:14

Vw 1300 72'
 
I'm going to introduce my project, which has been going on many years. Car is originally 72' 1300.


First it was just plain "hotrodded" latemodel beetle, then it got bigger and bigger engine (1835cc-2276cc), and few years ago rollgage for insane street and strip driving...:D

Now, total rebuild has been going on few years, repairing body (body off restoration), purchasing parts etc. New rollgage will be installed, IRS suspension with 944 alloy arms , 996/Boxster brembos etc, front rotors 330x28, rear rotors 299x24.

Engine will be 2600cc+ type 1 based 86 stroke 98+ bore engine with nickies, fi and so on.


T1 Transaxle sold, now porsche 915 in thoughts.

Few old pics here, also lots of pics will be coming:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2811/kupla1999.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/755/p1010053c.jpg

-Alex- May 5th 2011 15:22

Body has been lifted off, and pan repairing has been just done. New floors and irs brackets have been installed. Also special seat frames for recaros have been made.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3256/07042011.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9489/12042011.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/938...ekapeakoko.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6679/02052011.jpg

-Alex- June 8th 2011 14:15

330x28 wilwood gt series rotor and 996 caliper. Fits wery well inside to 996/997 17" spare

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6...h.jpg~original

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1...3.jpg~original




I have decided to abandon torsionbar front suspension with coilovers and r&p steering, and putting mendeola a-arm suspension. No turning back anymore, decision is final :)

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...1.jpg~original

Going to order some lasercut parts, including solid mounting tabs for rear swaybar:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1...e.jpg~original

coolrydes June 10th 2011 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Alex- (Post 80986)
330x28 wilwood gt series rotor and 996 caliper. Fits wery well inside to 996/997 17" spare

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6056/02062011h.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1687/020620113.jpg




I have decided to abandon torsionbar front suspension with coilovers and r&p steering, and putting mendeola a-arm suspension.

Going to order some lasercut parts, including solid mounting tabs for rear swaybar:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1...allistukse.jpg

Alex,

Kevin "Coolrydes" Zagar here from Mendeola. Just let me know when you order your front end kit, as we already have rear sway bar mounts for our rear end kit and I'll toss in a set with your kit......

-Alex- June 13th 2011 03:18

Thanks, but i have kerscher rear swaybar coming, so i have designed these brackets to fit with it.

-Alex- August 16th 2011 08:09

New plans, sold my T1 IRS box with quaife, now trying to get hands to early magcased 915 with 7:31=4,43 R & P. Almost got one, but it was sold away quickly.

Of course i will use Bug@5-speed conversion parts :)

Thinking to get rebuilt the 915 trans and adding LSD, maybe Wevo sidecover and bearing retainer plate.


http://www.mobileworkswest.com/images/911SC-915-1.JPG


Someday also will be mendeola a-arm kit coming, trying to arrange cheap overseas shipping, think i have found..

Bug@5speed(US) August 16th 2011 12:04

Wow,

that is one clean box..
Alex

-Alex- August 16th 2011 14:51

Sorry, haha, thats not my box :) I think magnesium version will look more "scruffy" than that aluminum version on the pic. I prefer mag cased 915 with shorter 7:31 R&P. Still trying to find one.

Wally August 17th 2011 10:26

Very nice build! thanks for sharing.
Interested in your 98+mm bore niksils, like wall thickness and head spigot bore. Very 'extreme'! so very cool to watch.
Walter

-Alex- August 19th 2011 03:33

I'v done cad modeling about the cylinders and heads. You can have JPM heads with wbx stud pattern and desired bore. STD opening on JPM wbx stud pattern heads is 111,1mm

This is cylinder has 98mm bore and 4mm thickness. Head does look quite thin when 111,1mm opening, but thinking if leaving it smaller and using max 100mm bore..


http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6...nteriputki.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4678/kansisf1.jpg

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2...sijaputket.jpg

BTW, i found cheap shipping for mendeola a-arm kit, box is 122x96x60cm and weighs 71kg, only 120 euros at boat from LA to Finland :)

Wally August 19th 2011 05:00

Wow! Drawing looks absolutely stunning!
Now the hard part: putting it into reality. Any plans for how your going to do that?

70Turbobug August 19th 2011 06:10

Wow is right! Fantastic project! I wish I could do CAD work like that also!

-Alex- August 20th 2011 04:29

JPM heads can be bought from stock like that, 4inch bore.

LN engineer nicasils can be custom made, extra cost is 250 dollars, but if dollar to euro rate stays as low as it's now, nickies wont be so expensive. Ok, still quite expensive :rolleyes: But possibly big improvement on a big bore engine.

At the moment mendeola suspension, bodywork and 915 transmission which is still on a shopping list, have made my wallet almost empty, so i have to wait until next year to buy these engine parts

onixbonilla September 4th 2011 12:21

I must admit that I had though about a very similar set up on mine.
Those MS230 with Nickies are very temting!!!
Post pictures as you get the parts and do the build!:D

-Alex- November 2nd 2011 08:46

Teaser here :lol:


http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8411/moottorivw.jpg


I might be lucky and get TF-1 case, LN cylinders, JE pistons and mendeola suspension before christmas :)

coolrydes November 2nd 2011 21:20

Alex,

Yours is in this bunch getting ready to ship.... Keep us posted on the progress...

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/862614.jpg

onixbonilla November 4th 2011 19:01

Me like it very much!!!:D

-Alex- April 5th 2012 15:24

At last, i got mine:D

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4...ujousitus1.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2...ujousitus2.jpg

Hubs and hats are still on order, but now i have front and rear rotors and calipers. (rears will be painted with gloss black paint)

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8051/img3012s.jpg

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6...akajarrut2.jpg

At rear also coilovers, but in finland uniball kit must be made by factory, so i chose remmele kit, up is my design made from 7075 aluminum to volksmeister.

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3894/05042012.jpg

-Alex- April 13th 2012 19:00

Custom 4" nickies and JE should be here really soon...Also Bugpack 88 flanged crank changed to a Scat 88 flanged crank, due to a availibility. Bugpack is forged 4340, Scat is forged 4340 to shape, then cnc machined.



There is now second head option for really big bore T1 head, instead of just JPM head, i think its german made head. Lots of cooling finns :)

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/3299/tp0xw.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4456/tp1b.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6562/tp7mh.jpg

volkdent April 13th 2012 21:03

This is kinda blowing my mind, that's just beautiful:shocked:

Jason

-Alex- May 5th 2012 15:08

Mendeola kit has been now stripped from parts and ready get aligned to the chassis..any day soon:lmao:

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1092/250420121.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6812/26042012.jpg


Hub and hat design has been finalised now, they will be made in few weeks. 1000€ + vat includes TUV legal paper, so thats way they cost so much. But if i need spare hubs or hats, i'll have made them at half of the price at tommisbillet.com :)

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8...takajarrut.jpg

Mendeola front suspension widens the front 8mm per side, and my hub design ads 12mm, so total is 20mm. I have 3cm wider kerscher fenders and kerscher say that with these fenders fit 7" et19 wheel + 205/50 tire combination with stock width axle.

I am planning to use 7,5x18 et50 wheels and 215/40R18 tires at front, should fit well according to offset calculator:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1160/vanneoffset.jpg

-Alex- May 7th 2012 16:12

Since i decided to use porsche fan from GWD, like my friend here, i need to use external oilcooler.

http://www.volkkaripalsta.com/keskus...e.php?id=31097

I was thinking to use porsche 911 mocal 50 row x 115 matrix oilcooler, outer dimensions are 2" x 6.5" x 13.5". Or smaller similar if it doesnt fit.

http://208.109.215.220/files/kits.pdf

Here i made a quick sketch where its placed in front of mendeola a-arm suspensions, dont know yet if there is room enough.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/939...50row115ma.jpg

Wally May 7th 2012 16:41

That 'RS head' is actually not made by RS Motor themselves, but by the same guy that makes the nice tool steel lifters and DS pumps ;-)
Keep the oil cooler small as you won't need a large one. If anything, the alu cylinders cool the oil extremely well.
Nice progress, will be a monster!

-Alex- May 8th 2012 01:33

Yeah, i know, isnt these heads made by Thorsten Pieper?

Progress since last summer has not been great, but finally cylinders+pistons and case are coming.

I would have had the case already, but Todd at precisionalloy found that recently made cases all had little too tight clearance between cam and crank bearing bore, boring fixture did have loose bushing.

So he offered me the tight case at half price (about $750), and with lapping the cam gear lash would been okay. But if the case would have not been good enough me, he would give me a free case from new batch. I chose to wait the better case from his new batch, he said that there was few improvements.

At my power levels, no turbo, so decide to choose best vw transmission, bus box with all weddle gears, using berg 5-kit. Should handle 300hp, maybe needs extra cooling if driven continously over 130mph :D Just the idea of slow shifting 915 doesnt interest so much..Early shortnose G50 with lower R&P would be fun, but the costs...

Wally May 8th 2012 04:20

Yeah, those are his indeed ;-)
Didn't see those pics on RSmotor website though? I have seen TP post those pics from himself though. Do you have a connection at RSmotor or something who offered them to you?

With all these elaborate measures and high end parts, I don;t understand why you don;t go the route Thorsten went himself too; WBX case converted to air. His heads were developed with that case in mind originally.
Likewise the gearbox: tbh, I chose my G50 because of the low total costs! Because its strong and shifts beautifully originally from the factory already! I haven't done anything to it, just making it fit, which costs only time mostly. Its only the initial cost of the G50 and thats it, no special weddle gears, intermediate thingy's, 5th gear conversions and the long wait and hoping they will deliver and someone will build it right for you the first time...
You just can;t beat a factory-strong 'right-in-the-first-place' transmission.
Just my .02 as they say ;-)

-Alex- May 8th 2012 05:56

First i wanted WBX case, but you can put longer stroke to TF-1 case, due to 0.100" dropped cam line. It has also trough bolts like T4 ;) But wbx case is very good.

G50 is definetly great, but i dont like long ratios, like 3.33 R&P and 3.5 or 3.15 first gear or similar. Too bad that lower R&P ratios cost so much for these transaxles, otherwise best porsche trans. But for turbo motor good choice :)

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/gt40-tech...-g50-info.html

EDIT: I think i'll need to rethink these ratios, G50/00 , G50/01 and G50/03 sounds better than rest, these have 3.44 R&P and 3.5 first gear.


I found this new type of head from cal-look.no, i may have confused, these heads are only offered by T. Pieper

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,17767.0.html

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewto...38585&start=15


Again some gear ratio calculating with 63cm tire;


1. pic: G50/00

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/503/g5000.jpg

2. pic: VW T1 with custom ratios

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/323/vwt1berg5.jpg

3. pic: VW bus berg 5 custom ratios

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/378/vwbusberg5.jpg

-Alex- May 24th 2012 14:16

I got my LN engineering custom cylinders and JE pistons, holy ****! I have never had so light and shiny pistons and cylinders :)

Pistons are FSR type, even lighter and stronger than normal JE, they are with 27mm compression height.

Cylinders are with 94mm mahle outer dimensions and WBX stud spacing.

Ok, now waiting "the experts" from Cal-look come to say these are totally unnecessary :lmao::p


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2442/24052012h.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2015/240520122.jpg

Wally May 24th 2012 14:43

Very nice! The FSR type is a recent piston type that JE now also sells for most all car makes as an aftermarket upgrade.
Good choice!

I see you looked into the G50 ratios also. I'am sure if you had a drive in my car, you'd agree that the ratios are ~perfect for a tuned engine in a bug with 17 or 18" rims.
Don;t get too hang-up on the stroke you can go on another case as longer strokes are not always helpfull to get more power. They always flex more then you'l realize. Better heads with more rpm is the way for a performance engine imo.

-Alex- May 24th 2012 14:55

Yeah, long strokes are more prone to flexing especially at high rpm use, maybe lighter pistons and rods help a bit. Thats way i decided to use all T4 mains scat billet crank. Probably limiting the rpm to 7000-7300.

Wally May 24th 2012 14:59

So what stroke are you considering that requires a .10" cam drop?

-Alex- May 24th 2012 15:29

Nah, 86 or 88 stroke doesnt require cam drop.


Got yesterday energysuspension sway bar bushings for weldable brackets to use with kerscher swaybar. A lot harder polyurethane than kerscher ones, and fits everyway better to my brackets than kerscher ones ( Obiwan is getting the same set also )

I also have now drill jig for safety wiring, easy to drill holes to bolts :D Recommended with wilwood rotors and hats with threads.


https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/L/3747.JPG

rennsport May 24th 2012 15:58

nice project...

Rule09 June 1st 2012 14:55

Nice extreme project! :cool:

Rule09 June 1st 2012 14:57

I never heard about mendola front, otherwis i maybay didn't sold my black and white bug.. :confused:
Looks very nice!!!

Obiwan June 4th 2012 15:02

Keep going Alex, your project and the technical choices are definitively greats !

-Alex- June 5th 2012 03:17

Project goes on, sometimes little slow progress. But still progress.

I did over year ago crank+rod order from DRD, newer got the parts. Now he promised to return the money...well we see. Then gotta try different shop.

I was thinking to put Scat billet flanged crank, either 86 stroke or 88 stroke with all t4 mains. Wonder if there is any bad, like more rod angle or crank flex if choosing 88 stroke.

Case is sure the strongest what you can get. Scat billet cranks should be strong, well they are not exactly billet, forged to shape and then all surfaces machined smooth like big companies forged race cranks (Callies, Lunati etc)

-Alex- July 3rd 2012 09:45

Well, hubs and hats are ready, only need anodizing. Also got adjustable shocks from QA1 to front.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8818/snb13274.jpg


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/870/02072012.jpg

Wally July 3rd 2012 09:59

Purdy!

NO_H2O July 4th 2012 10:03

Nice.

-Alex- July 29th 2012 07:05

I got flanged crank with flywheel, Scat billet / forged 86 stroke, all t4 mains, chevy rod journals.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7000/25072012.jpg


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