brake lines: Super v. Std
 

I have a standard bug with a ball joint front end, and need to use a metal brake line before the rubber line, sort of an adaptor. So I was questioning whether a super beetle brake line kit would work on my standard.

If I remember right this is how the front goes

STD: caliper->rubber->metal->m/c
Super: caliper->metal->rubber->metal->m/c

The only questionable thing was the length of the rubber line between the caliper and the metal lines that lead to the m/c. If they are the same length or not, or at least close enough.

anyone know if they can be interchanged?

Thanks
Rip

Rip,

I've attached some pics of the 3rd gen Rx7 brake hose bracket. These install under the caliper mounting bolt. Check your local dealer (or junker), these might be the ticket for what you're trying to do.

As for the hoses, you have the plumbing right. The supers have a short metal line at the wheel side. The threads are all the same for all aircooled dubs (M10x1 Bubble flare) just different ends. Hope this helps:

Application Size(mm) Ends
BJ front (68+) 380 M/F
LP front (50-64) 480 M/F
SB front (71-73) about 290ish F/F
SB front (74-79) 330 F/F
T2 Bus front(71-79) 340 F/F

Lanner

thanks lanner

looks like the later year brake line kit should work. Because the threads are the same figured I could simply buy the super kit; and the line that goes to the caliper and crush the bubble flare in (with the tapered brake flare tool ) and use it.

sound good?

thanks
Rip

Rip,

Yeah that will work on the metal line, bubble flare on one end and inverted flare on the other.

Lanner

Rip,

I see in your other post you are looking for inverted flare to bubble flare adaptors. I know they exist, but am not sure where to get them. I'd just go with a small metal line going to a bracket (like the stock RX7 piece), then use the T2 rubber line (F-F, 340mm length) to get to the car's bracket. The flaring tools are relatively cheap, or just get friendly with your local mechanic to make you the metal line. You can purchase premade lines at auto stores (purchase a metric bubble flare line) and then cut off one end and inver-flare it. You'll get the right line-nuts (M10x1) with the premade line. Hope it works out. If you're having trouble getting it done, email me and I'll make up the line for you and ship it out.

Easy,
Lanner

What's wrong with just buying the correct brake line kit?

whats the correct brake line kit for a '63 beetle with a '70 pan, 2nd gen Rx7 calipers, 3rd gen Rx7 brake rotors?

btw its not on the road yet but I was able to find german beetle brake lines, which have a combo like flaring, they have a bubble/inverted flare. I guess this saves manufacturing time and effort. I'm not on the road yet to say how they will work but... I bleed the system and hit the brakes, no weeping yet.