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Wally July 27th 2010 12:24

And thanks to Blizzard for shooting from the top of the building onto Eau Rouge:

Walter

http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=IMAG0047.mp4

http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=IMAG0051.mp4

http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=IMAG0060.mp4

All drivers (behind the pace car for the first two laps) on saterday (wet):
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...t=IMAG0044.mp4

NO_H2O July 27th 2010 14:21

NICE Videos as always Wally. Your car looks, sounds and runs great. That lap in the Race Taxi looks like a blast too.

70Turbobug July 28th 2010 04:49

Man Wally - you are having entirely too much fun! :D But you deserve it;) I love the onboard video - it sounds so awesome when you really get into it.Thanks for the motivation again - gives me some more hope for getting mine finished..

Wally July 28th 2010 05:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 77099)
Man Wally - you are having entirely too much fun! :D But you deserve it;) I love the onboard video - it sounds so awesome when you really get into it.

I hear you and your totally right of course, but it did take me 25 years as a privateer to be able to do this. Sometimes people see only this and don't know or tend to forget (not you of course) what was all needed to get there ;)

Humble July 28th 2010 11:45

Great videos dude! Love to see the car getting flogged on the track. Getting some hot laps around SPA is on my list of to-do's wherever I get over there. That ride in the "taxi" looks pretty fun, did it have much body roll to speak of? That thing looks pretty planted in the corners.

Wally July 28th 2010 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble (Post 77101)
That ride in the "taxi" looks pretty fun, did it have much body roll to speak of? That thing looks pretty planted in the corners.

None, not at all. That must also be the reason the box goes round corners so well. Acceleration wise, that could be had with just more power I reckon :rolleyes:

Wally August 9th 2010 13:52

Finished the fuel upgrades by adding a catch tank. Sounds easy, but involves a lot more than you'd think. Adding an extra fuel pump (blue one my former pump) to fill the catch tank, making space for the tank itself, which meant rotating the water tank in my case and adding another return to the original fuel tank, which meant taking out the tank and welding the return onto it (after all the precautions of course).

But very happy with the outcome, which also involded placing all fuel pumps and the filter under the dry-sump tank, so I had no fuel up front in the wheel well anymore, which feels safer in case of a head-on collision.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...tchtank001.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...tchtank004.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...tchtank006.jpg

Low pressure fuel lines have stuck-on fitment, but all high pressure fuel lines are now screw-on type (AN).
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...tchtank007.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...tchtank008.jpg

NO_H2O August 9th 2010 14:29

Nice looking work. As always.

Sandeep August 9th 2010 17:05

Looking "busy" up front Wally :D

How do you like the camber/caster plates ?

Sandeep

Wally August 9th 2010 17:21

Caster plates (thats how I had them welded anyways ;-)) work well, but more would have been even better as I now have about 3-3,5 degrees caster from 1-1,5 degrees before. Yes, they only did about 2-2,5 degrees, but positioning them any further was not really possible as you can see.
I think its my M030 axle pieces that give negative caster over stock, but idk for sure..

Wally August 15th 2010 09:02

Nürburgring Toursitenfahrt August 14th:

http://s231.photobucket.com/albums/e...2010TF/303.jpg

http://www.scirocco89.de/coppermine/...10/DSC_281.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...3.jpg~original

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...5.jpg~original

NO_H2O August 15th 2010 09:40

Nice pix Wally. I see you have a new addition on the rear. How did it work?

Wally August 15th 2010 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by NO_H2O (Post 77331)
Nice pix Wally. I see you have a new addition on the rear. How did it work?

Hard to tell..only way to find out how well it really works is in a windtunnel and none of us have the resources to do that.
In reality, I would have to drive just over the limit and feel the car break out, then repeat under the exact same conditions with it...just not practical. It stayed on :) and my theory and gut feeling says it should work. Had great traction all day and the car felt really good, better then ever before, but tbh, I really dunno how much that relates to the rear wing.
Just copy what Porsche does with their GT3 RS and GT2 RS cars and you can never be far off I suppose. Plus I had no budget planned for this and just used my old aircooled.net spoiler and extended it so its out of the way of the intercooler and more in the air stream that leaves the roof.
That wasn't much help actually huh, was it? :)

Wally August 15th 2010 13:16

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...3.jpg~original

NO_H2O August 15th 2010 13:37

Confidence counts for alot. If it feels like its working and your mind says its working and you have the confidence to push it a bit harder. It must be working (in one way or another).

Humble August 16th 2010 01:35

You might have to play with the wing a bit to get a good feeling out of it. Mine is little more than a picnic table at 70" wide and 12" cord but the difference was immediately noticeable. For a smaller spoiler you might need a more aggressive attack or to add a gurney flap to really make a difference.

Steve C August 16th 2010 05:47

Hi Wally

Maybe you could try the old wool tufts trick to see what the air flow is doing over the spoiler, you could probably see most of it in the rear view mirror or try using one of your cameras to film it.

Steve

Wally August 16th 2010 17:06

Thanks for the pointers guys!
I think that a proper wing-shaped wing (?) instead of the plate-type it is now will make loads of more downforce, but for now the wing gets off again as I get the car prepared for some drag racing again at Santa Pod coming 5/6th september ;)

It was a really busy/crowded day as it was a saturday and the weather was extremely beautifull for a change. So lots of photografers there too :)

http://www.uedn.de/nos/T14082010/Images/DSC_0112.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QWgHq4tCVDE/TG...c/P8148671.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_QWgHq4tCVDE/TG...k/P8148670.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QWgHq4tCVDE/TG...E/P8148831.JPG

70Turbobug August 17th 2010 06:50

Looks like you´ve been quite busy Wally! Nice upgrades! The catch tank is a wise decision imho especially for a turbo car.Highspeed corners or 250+Km/h down "Pflanzgarten" will show if the spoiler works well or not :D

Wally August 17th 2010 09:06

You have still crazy ideas about attainable speeds with a beetle there Mark!
Your way, way off... ;-)

judgie August 18th 2010 04:36

when i first built my car i had no rear wing and the car felt very odd at speeds over 70mph. i fitted a rice rear wing and it made a very noticable differance to the stabilty in long corners. since fitting the lola rear wing [ which is huge] it has made a huge differance, you notice it above 50mph but it is running a big attack angle and the top plane is almost stalled !
first wing
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untitled by robjudge1313, on Flickr
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lola rear wing
[img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2263/...31d_z.jpg?zz=1
IMAGE_00089 by robjudge1313, on Flickr
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70Turbobug August 18th 2010 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally (Post 77352)
You have still crazy ideas about attainable speeds with a beetle there Mark!
Your way, way off... ;-)


LOL ! I know..and your still too conservative - so the truth lies somewhere in the middle:lmao: I was just kidding about the 250+ of course..
However,you should notice a difference in corner speeds i.e. have more grip in the high speed corners than before the spoiler - if it works properly and produces more down force than drag.I have an interesting PDF file on building race cars and it covers spoilers,diffusors,etc. quite extensively if you´re interested.It´s in German,which isn´t much of a problem for you.

Wally August 18th 2010 09:47

Thanks for the input Rob! Your wing is a little over the top for me, but it confirms my beliefs that it must make a difference if executed in the right way.

Mark, during TouristenFahren, the long straight is closed for the return lane and toll booth, so there really is no actual straigh on the Nordschleife during TF...even though there are a few really fast parts, they all have some degree of bend(s) in them. Still managed 200 km/h last saturday as my digit speedo records max speed.
I was very pleased with that as I never got that fast on a non-straight before and it could very well have to do with the extra safety/stability feeling the 'wing' gave.
The Ring has a lot of long bends, so that would coincide with Rob's experience as well :)

Hope we see each other at Action again in 2,5 weeks Rob! Undertray and wing will not be there then though as the car will be in full drag-race mode by then :D

I promise, these will be the last:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...48_3600001.jpg

A few brits spotted us on the parking and round-about just before the entrance and made this pic ;)
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...1600x1200_.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...1600x1200_.jpg

70Turbobug August 19th 2010 05:29

Nice pic in the "caroussel" ;)

Wally September 6th 2010 11:11

After the circuit driving comes the drag racing action at VWAction at Santa Pod raceway

3rd gear burn-out to warm the tires:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...3/IMGP4257.jpg
to do this
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...3/IMGP4155.jpg

Result was an 11.62 @ 119.8 mph and I drove all the way home again (450km) with it packed with my camping gear.

Xellex September 6th 2010 19:54

haha, congrats! Was this the first time you took the front wheels off the ground?

Luismj September 6th 2010 20:50

:eek::eek::eek: :notworthy: Nice pic!!!

wrenchnride247 September 6th 2010 21:45

That's great news Wally! That will have some T1 people scratching thier heads about T4's. Love the "wheels up" launch!

Wally September 7th 2010 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xellex (Post 77629)
haha, congrats! Was this the first time you took the front wheels off the ground?

Yeah, scared the heck out of me as I try to keep the front as heavy as possible for good balance with circuit use: Battery, oil DS tank, waterinj.tank, catch tank, 2 fuel pumps, some steel braces, steel bumper etc etc...
Still, bloody proud of course of a fat track chick doing a wheelie :D and very happy no flywheels or drivetrain parts were blown :)

70Turbobug September 10th 2010 05:39

Wow the pig can fly!:D Congrats Wally! 11,62 for a circuit car is impressive enough,but a wheelie?! Very cool!! AS you correctly stated,the most important thing is that nothing broke.

Humble September 10th 2010 12:32

Wheels up on a circuit car is pretty damn impressive for sure! I would definitely be worried about something breaking but it's good to see everything held together.

Since I got my car dynoed I've been looking at your dyno sheets more. Is your car 381hp/337trq at the wheels or is that corrected flywheel horsepower? I'm going to be adding a water/air intercooler on my setup so I'm wondering how much power I'll pick up. Also what intake temps are you hitting when you're up around 15-20 psi?

Wally September 11th 2010 16:31

Double post

Wally September 11th 2010 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble (Post 77666)
Wheels up on a circuit car is pretty damn impressive for sure! I would definitely be worried about something breaking but it's good to see everything held together.

I was actually a worried, as my buddies car did break his transmission and it would have been my only possibility to piggy back to the mainland as his car is (well, was :D ) a street legal car as well and was towed on an ambulance to the event. The wheelie was after his car already had broken... but I went for it anyway :rolleyes:

Quote:

Since I got my car dynoed I've been looking at your dyno sheets more. Is your car 381hp/337trq at the wheels or is that corrected flywheel horsepower? I'm going to be adding a water/air intercooler on my setup so I'm wondering how much power I'll pick up. Also what intake temps are you hitting when you're up around 15-20 psi?
Yes, that was corrected flywheel hp ;) Coorection for whp is/was about 15%.
IAT not sure exactly, but those are usually pretty low, around 25-30 Celcius ( ~70-80F?).

At Santa Pod I was running a 'little' more boost and a little more timing, so I think I'll revisit the dyno again sometime to see what that was ;)

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...m.jpg~original

NO_H2O September 11th 2010 19:17

Nice work. Love the "wheels up" shot.

Fast65 September 12th 2010 13:42

having seen wallys car last weekend, i can say its an awesome car every run seamed easy, no fuss, no effort a very well put together car with a nice guy driving it :)

cheers andy

Wally September 13th 2010 16:45

Thanks for that Andy! It was definately great finally meeting up with you guys. The photoshoot with all of us on the track at once was real fun too!
Definately hope your car is there next time. It sure sounds very promising what you've build so far.

The clutch I run now is not as effortlessly to operate with drag starts mind you. The wheelie was actually a real big bog, but the other way around, but don't tell anybody I said that :rolleyes:

and welcome to the german car board ;)

Luismj September 14th 2010 22:50

Wally,

This really beautiful picture! :eek:
One question ... the clutch is noisy or works smoothly? What are you thinking now about the double kennedy clutch?
Thank you.

Wally September 15th 2010 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luismj (Post 77711)
Wally,

One question ... the clutch is noisy or works smoothly? What are you thinking now about the double kennedy clutch?

That are two questions :)
Actually both: its noisy when depressing the pedal, but smooth on all other moments.
So far, only this kennedy double clutch holds the power and gives me a light (=street friendly in my book) pedal.

More surprising is the stock cast flywheel still holds. I would rather have a steel ('forged') flywheel, but only 200mm and 215 seems to be available (the 215 only very recently and is not in stock afaik).

Wally September 18th 2010 08:28

Received this photo from Santa Pod's official track-side photographer. I really like this one.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...9.jpg~original

NO_H2O September 18th 2010 18:25

That is a nice one.


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