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Wally September 26th 2011 07:48

It was great weather last sunday, I'll update later some more. In short I gained a lot on my time and even got a prize!

http://www.rpmvision.nl/pictures/fea...f3cc6fa62c.jpg

TSAF September 26th 2011 08:43

Post a couple of photos when possible. We love to see the best turbocharged type iv beetle in action.

Wally September 26th 2011 12:13

Sure will, but it usually takes a few days until all track photographers have published their pictures ;-)

Wally September 26th 2011 16:42

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...h.jpg~original

judgie September 27th 2011 04:49

nice pic's. did you notice any differance with having the rear wing fitted?

70Turbobug September 27th 2011 04:50

Ooooooooooohhhhhh I like that one!

Wally September 27th 2011 05:51

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Originally Posted by judgie (Post 81884)
nice pic's. did you notice any differance with having the rear wing fitted?

I knew someone was gonna ask me that ;)
Unfortunately, I have changed about 6 seperate things (LSD, stiffer front springs, different brake balance, bit more boost, removed 40lbs front seat and the wing) on the car before this final. I drove 2,5 seconds of my lap time compared to last month on the same track. It was also quit a bit warmer (more tire grip) and I may have driven a bit more agrressive, so you tell me what caused it by what percentage..?
From my (very) limited seat of the pants feeling, I'd say the higher boost, more grip from the warmer tarmac and my driving made the most difference.
The LSD did not give more understeer at all (to my surprise), but did make the car brake hard more stable. It didn't wiggle its tail anymore under hard braking, even though my top speed at the end of the straight was now 210 km/h (131 mph in 4th gear, approaching 7K rpm) and 5 km/h faster then last month.
There was a point where I (finally) felt the rear tires blocking and I immediately adjusted the Tilton brake bias adjuster (for the first time I ever needed it!) a few clicks. Also a few times on WOT accelerating out of a tight corner in second gear, the rear wanted to step out a little, but I think the LSD also made that exercise a little more controllable, if not for having prevented a spin alltogether.
So, not sure the wing did anything. But its my own basterdized wing, so it doesn't mean _a_ wing would not help. I think it does, but a little better design then just the flat sheet of alu that I used, might work better :-)

Even so, compared to other (modern) cars with much less hp, I am still relatively (very) slow!! I can only conclude I probably cannot drive and/or don't push it to the limits at all. I do want to get home and getting old(er), so that might have s/th to do with it too LOL

I did the laps on 20 psi of boost, so with about 425 chp on the track! and it all went well as I drove the car home on its own wheels afterwards.

All in all, I found it a very good ending of the season :)

70Turbobug September 27th 2011 09:43

Quote:

I do want to get home and getting old(er), so that might have s/th to do with it too LOL
Yeah, no kidding Wally...do you get a seniorīs discount yet at the track :D My guess is while you are running at a for you comfortable speed,the "faster guys" are probably very close to or at their limit.Some use aggressiveness and self over estimation to make up for talent and end up throwing the car off the track.There is no shame in being sensible and responsible ;)

Wally September 27th 2011 09:56

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Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 81888)
My guess is while you are running at a for you comfortable speed,the "faster guys" are probably very close to or at their limit.Some use aggressiveness and self over estimation to make up for talent and end up throwing the car off the track.

Your not that far of with that assesment! There was indeed quit a lot of damage from cars going off last sunday... (knock on wood).
But its hard to explain everytime why I'am not much faster with so much hp onboard :o

TSAF September 27th 2011 11:14

Maybe with constant training at the track, your lap times will change. It seems that the cars potential have changed a lot with all these new adjustments. Give a bit of time and I believe that you will see a great improvement on your track records. Did you have a new set of slicks this weekend or you were running oldies?

evilC September 27th 2011 12:34

Maybe it's that your in a different space/time continuem? Personally, I go with Einstein that as you approach the speed of light you get longer. If you get longer it stands to reason that it will take lomnger to get round;):rolleyes:

Humble September 27th 2011 14:34

I'll take your bug for a spin after you and we could compare telemetry :) I just need to get over there... Ideally though, that's the best way to measure improvements accurately, to use a telemetry box and compare overlays with other drivers.

70Turbobug September 28th 2011 05:33

Thatīs alright Wally...donīt push it! Speed comes with confidence.Like TSAF said,youīve made a lot of changes and youīve invested a lot of time and money in that project.Itīs a hobby and itīs built to have fun.As long as youīre having fun and constantly improving,who cares what the other drivers are running.

TSAF September 28th 2011 05:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70Turbobug (Post 81897)
Thatīs alright Wally...donīt push it! Speed comes with confidence.Like TSAF said,youīve made a lot of changes and youīve invested a lot of time and money in that project.Itīs a hobby and itīs built to have fun.As long as youīre having fun and constantly improving,who cares what the other drivers are running.

Well said :):):):)

Wally September 28th 2011 09:04

Thanks for the encouragement guys!

The rear wing is ugly from the sides, but I already knew I need to make nicer stands or buy something:
http://media.nu.nl/m/m1ezvi2a4c3s.jpg[/

http://www.rpmvision.nl/pictures/fea...defd77eded.jpg


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