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Wally May 19th 2009 08:23

The MBT 1303 company car
 
Check this 1303 out from MBT :eek:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...3.jpg~original

More about the car here:
http://www.mbt-engineering.de/DE/About/vw_k_1303_1.html

Jim May 19th 2009 10:58

What a monster!!!

Honestly, just unbelievable!!!

evilC May 19th 2009 13:09

Veeeerrrrry nice! Did you notice the light weight rear brakes? No discs(rotors)!!!!

Sandeep May 19th 2009 13:32

:shocked: FANTASTIC !!!

Sandeep

chug_A_bug May 19th 2009 13:41

WOW Crazy sexy.... :D

Chris.

Humble May 19th 2009 18:27

Very very nice, I wouldn't mind putting that car through its paces :D I want to know where they get the centre lock hubs. I'd like a set of those for my car.

Wally May 20th 2009 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble (Post 69679)
I want to know where they get the centre lock hubs. I'd like a set of those for my car.

I dunno whats the situation over at your place, but over here, centre lock hubs/wheels are illegal for street use...

Quite a while ago, I had a web-site of a german machining company that made those for porsche hubs.
Anyways, I suspect it will not be cheap whoever makes them.

petevw May 20th 2009 02:07

Those are one of my favorite sets of wheels.

:driving:

Pete

evilC May 20th 2009 06:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally (Post 69683)
I dunno whats the situation over at your place, but over here, centre lock hubs/wheels are illegal for street use...

....................

I didn't realise that? Is it a Eurozone regulation or just local to you? There are a mass of old Jaguars and the like that use knock on centre hubs does that mean they are illegal to drive on the road Europe wide or just in the Netherlands?:(

Wally May 20th 2009 06:50

I am sure that cars that originally came with them are perfectly legal, but those crazy tuned cars where some-one has made some contraption to fit his wheels in another way, is another thing (eggageration to make a point).
I am no expert in european legislation, but pretty sure most inspection bodies see it the same way. Its a pity, but that is just what I know.
Unless you present it for some sort of custom approval or type approval, but I am sure most of don't want to go there...
Officially, the power in my car isn't legal either and needs custom approval and I will probably just do that end of the year or sooner if money allows.

evilC May 20th 2009 11:55

Well in general we don't have silly rules about TuV or type approval here. There are construction and use regulations here that we have to abide by but by and large they are all about minimum safety standards and making sure the police can easily identify the car and driver. There is certainly no limits on power or modifications.

VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!!

Wally May 20th 2009 12:15

So you fabricate something on your suspension and it breaks off, causing a major traffic accident with casualties and your insurance company pays out regardless?
Amazing.

evilC May 20th 2009 13:37

The insurance company insures the car it is. You have to tell them it is modified and what you have done. If they have an issue with it they will probably insist on an engineer's report and insure a risk accordingly. The powers that be should not be in a position to ban something just because it has not acheived a beaurocratic level. I am proud to say that Britain's standing in the world of performance cars is one of the highest (see our standing in F1) and that all stems from people having the ability to try out innovations without the need to satisfy the cost and reams of paperwork necessary for type approval. The vast majority of our road going competition cars have non-type approval. It would be a sad day if we had a one size fits all.
Even your system of type approval doesn't ensure safety as it cannot cater for all permutations of components - all it does is stiffle progress.

Wally May 20th 2009 14:39

I totally agree Steve. Its just so amazing that the red tape has not gotten to you guys in the uk. Wish it was like that over here...

Humble May 20th 2009 17:10

Perfectly road legal in the US as far as I know. I know several cars old and new that come with centre locks (ferrari, porsche, lambo, jag...) and I've seen more than a few cars modified to use them (I think 034 motorsports did that). The closest we get to any kind of red tape in here in california where the smog laws are very strict but for classics older the 1976 it doesn't matter.

Now the race car is built as a race car first but is still street legal-ish with insurance and current tags required by a couple classes I compete in. That just means I have to mind my P's and Q's on the road.


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