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Wally January 14th 2010 03:49

Tnx Jim.
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Originally Posted by Jim (Post 73361)
... and as i see from the photos it needs a little triming in the dash in order to fits nicely!

Yeah, don't remind me... No gains without pains right? The fresh air supply will have to be rerouted some way as well...

Jim January 14th 2010 04:13

Indeed......without pain there is no gain!!

This is a picture of a friend of mine and his project and how it looks like after the surgery....it might helps you!

http://www.bugaru.gr/wp-content/uplo.../bugaru_63.jpg

Wally January 14th 2010 04:20

That is way too nice! :o

oasis January 15th 2010 03:38

As one who had asked about cages a while ago, this is great additional info for me. Very nice! Thanks.

Wally January 15th 2010 16:58

Received the uniball bushings and the polybronze ones today :D

They fit VERY nicely and precise!

I think I will try to fit the inside polybronze bushes as well as the inner circle of the 944 and bug torsion tube housing look to be the same.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...3.jpg~original

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...5.jpg~original

ricola January 15th 2010 18:00

Nice, I'll be interested to hear how you get on with them!

wrenchnride247 January 15th 2010 22:59

I'm officially jealous :rockon:

ricola January 16th 2010 07:13

Just a thought, will these inner uniballs work without mods on a bug chassis? I know the inner bushes are normally different but can't remember how exactly...

Also, what overall spring rate do you have at the back and how do you find it? I'm trying to work out roughly what springs to get for some coilovers in addition to the stock torsion bar...

Xellex January 16th 2010 10:30

also, it looks like the hole through the trailing arm bushes is too small. Are you using the stock beetle bolt, or the porsche (thinner) one?

Wally January 16th 2010 11:38

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Originally Posted by ricola (Post 73474)
Just a thought, will these inner uniballs work without mods on a bug chassis? I know the inner bushes are normally different but can't remember how exactly...

Nobody tried that afaik...I noticed the outer diameter is (about?) the same. Difference is ONLY that the bug's torsion tube had 4 indentations (sp?), but I guesstimate that these urethane outer parts don't really need a 360 degree contact path to seat against... Only one way to try it right?
I had also ordered a set of bug IRS black urethane grommets, but Topline was out of stock at the moment and I want the arms back in... so I'll try the 944 parts first I think.
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Also, what overall spring rate do you have at the back and how do you find it? I'm trying to work out roughly what springs to get for some coilovers in addition to the stock torsion bar...
Your quest/questions are the same as I have Richard...
All I know is the former 23.5mm bars were too soft for my heavy tranny/engine/intercooler/turbo and all that, so the logical next step was 25.5mm.
There is no more science to it than that ;)

Test and try, test and try.. Its a bitch, but someone has got to do it :lmao:

Wally January 16th 2010 11:40

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Originally Posted by Xellex (Post 73477)
also, it looks like the hole through the trailing arm bushes is too small. Are you using the stock beetle bolt, or the porsche (thinner) one?

I don't understand the q...

Xellex January 16th 2010 12:40

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well, you know how the beetle trailing arm bolt has a bigger diameter than the porsche one, and that you need to pull out the porsche bushings and replace them with the beetle ones, to make that bolt fit through.
Now, from your pictures, that hole looks to be too small to use the beetle bolt. That's why I was wondering, if you made some modification to your chassis, to be able to use the porsche bolts :)

Wally January 16th 2010 13:17

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Originally Posted by Xellex (Post 73485)
That's why I was wondering, if you made some modification to your chassis, to be able to use the porsche bolts :)

Ah, yes, now I understand what your saying: yes, I did convert to the 12mm Porsche 944 bolt by welding in 12mm nut(s) deep within the forks ;)

Wally February 7th 2010 13:06

This weekend I have welded in the cage. Its not 'bolt-out' anymore, but the extra structural stuffness by welding the A- and B-pillars to the cage had my priority ;)
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...2.jpg~original

Cage is really close to the A-pillars which I really like. It makes welding easy.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...4.jpg~original

I made a bracket to bolt to the former seat belt mounting points so I can keep the head liner and inner trim intact:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...2.jpg~original

Next making the dash fit...

dub_crazee February 7th 2010 13:45

looks like you;ve got your hands full there wally - the poly bronze bushes look interesting - im keen to know how theyl turn out for you this year :)

ive just fitted the weltmeister (sp?) ones to my spring plates - theyl do for now :)

out of interest have you considered uniball / coil over set ups.....i like the idea of the adjustability.

keep up the good work

deano


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