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Wally August 16th 2006 06:07

DDD4 pictures
 
Lend somewhere from the site of our 'neighbours' www.german-spirit.com:

http://olivier.lecorre.club.fr/galer.../bitburg06.htm

Most all of them are very good pictures and they had 'german' written all over them, which is outstanding, given its mostly a callook/old-style look meeting.

This is my favorit for many reasons:
http://olaf.nhz.de/albums/album41/MG_0170.sized.jpg

Its a Gelb-schwarzem Renner (special limited 1303 edition only in Germany) with a 2,6 ltr type 4 with Riechert horizontal cooling, that was build 25 years ago, has never been apart and still delivers very fast 1/4 mile times. Don't know the exact times tho..:o but when you can make a wheelie with a full weight street legal 1303, you have my respect :cool:

Oh, I participated also, but not quite that spectacular, but had great fun nonetheless:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2...0806305qx7.jpg

Greetings,
Walter

oasis August 16th 2006 10:05

Very nice, Walter. The GSR and its American cousin, the Sports Bug, is a favorite at SBO!. They will enjoy the link.

Oh, and I like the other pic, too. ;)

jonas_linder August 16th 2006 13:44

what time did you run wally?!

volkdent August 16th 2006 14:55

That red/burgundy bug is insane. I think those are Moton shocks all around, an option that probably costs about as much as a stock bug!

Jason

Wally August 16th 2006 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by volkdent
That red/burgundy bug is insane.
Jason

You are more right than you think. The whole car is detailed to perfection. I cannot descibe it any other way. It has a very fast 2,9 ltr type 4 out back...

@ Jonas: It was my first ever official 1/4 mile and I managed 16,0 :o sheer weight, the very mild Web 86, the 11,4 A/F ratio at full throttle and street tires were not helping, but the fun was nonetheless :D

I did drove 36,8 MPG on the way back home hehe. (with a thursty 12,4 AFR)

Lazarus August 16th 2006 16:38

i think the most odd thing is the blue second gen camaro. all i could hear in my head was that song from sesame street "one of these things are not like the other, some of these things are kinda the same"

Panelfantastic August 16th 2006 19:31

Yes! Great pics! Thanks for sharing!

Soooo many questions about that burgundy/candy apple bug... but mostly, on the front susp pics, is that some sort of adjustable caster setup?? I'm looking at the pic that shows the rear side of the front susp and there is an adjustable rod tied to the beam and running rearward to the pan. Why would you need to dial in the caster often enough to have an elaborate setup like this?

Thanks for edumacatin' the dummy.

Jeff-

volkdent August 17th 2006 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panelfantastic
Yes! Great pics! Thanks for sharing!

Soooo many questions about that burgundy/candy apple bug... but mostly, on the front susp pics, is that some sort of adjustable caster setup?? I'm looking at the pic that shows the rear side of the front susp and there is an adjustable rod tied to the beam and running rearward to the pan. Why would you need to dial in the caster often enough to have an elaborate setup like this?

Thanks for edumacatin' the dummy.

Jeff-

Is it possible that what you were looking at was an over-engineered beam brace? They've also got simple clamp on formed tubing versions. EDIT- Uh yeah, that's what it is. It's supposed to keep the beam more rigid. They have MUCH simpler and lighter versions available, but no where NEAR the wow factor.


Jason

Wally August 17th 2006 16:37

I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor. I thought a member of the 'GermanLook' forum above all would understand this.

jonas_linder August 17th 2006 16:55

11.6:1 that is rich even in a turbocar under boost :eek:

I have no time at all so I should probably just shut up ;)

It sound like you had a great time and that is all that matters!

Panelfantastic August 17th 2006 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally
I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor. I thought a member of the 'GermanLook' forum above all would understand this.

Ok Wally, lay it on us. "Vat does dis doo?"
I could see wanting to add (or is negative take away?) a little caster for a track with more long straights than short curves, and vice versa for a short track with no straights, but this thing looks a little beyond even that explanation.
Make no mistake, I think the car is freakin' AWESOME! I just wanted to learn about some of the neat engineering. Not denying the guy is a fabrication master.


Jeff-

Wally August 18th 2006 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally
I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor.

The above does not suggest at all that I know every intimate designing consideration that lead to the descision of making it the way it is :confused: .
I have seen the car in person and spoke with the guy in german for some time about his car.
Torsion bar front ends really do not interest me at all, so that was not my point of interest when we spoke about his car...
The whole car IS pure german-style, believe me at least on that one ;)

Wally August 18th 2006 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonas_linder
11.4:1 that is rich even in a turbocar under boost :eek:

Yes, thanks for the confirmation; thats why I really need some programming and drive time to further adjust the fuel map. I forsee a 15,.. next time with this engine :D I strive for 12,5-12,8 for max power, but only the dyno (next week) will tell.

volkdent August 18th 2006 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wally
I think that there's probably a little more to it than your 'judgement' from a picture taken from under a car...
This guy does not do things for the wow factor. I thought a member of the 'GermanLook' forum above all would understand this.

:D Well, that car isn't so clean you could eat off it just to make it go faster! That's the wow factor. An adustable beam brace could be made up with a far less complicated contraption, but form does follow function and it actually looks better than it contributes to the increase in performance of the car, so I'd say that falls squarely in the "wow" catagory! And a good job he's done of it too, it's really beautiful. And yes, GermanLook is about function AND FORM, so he's pretty much got it covered in both departments.:agree:

jonas_linder August 18th 2006 19:19

For max power you should shoot for 13.6:1 ;) On gas anyway!


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