thanks tito ray.
i went to see the rims i was gonna buy. and decided not to. the pic the guy posted wasn't the same as the whells for sale and 2 of the tires had nails in em .

so no deal
if the wouldn't fit the bug i was gonna use em on my golf, but decided the rims where fuggly
the top rims are the ones he said he had
and the bottom one is what he had
http://www.kelleners-sport.com/engli...mages/mini.jpg
http://www.kelleners-sport.com/engli...images/7er.jpg