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Who's running What??
Hey guys Soo I'm Starting to Shop for tires for my Wheels
and just wanting to know who's got what or tried what? anything good for the Summer and a few track days?? any good Picks on Makes BTW I need 225/45R17 235/50R17 thanks Chris.
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I am hugely impressed with Goodyear F1 GSD3. I've tried others and keep coming back to them for good grip, excellent feel and handling, good wear. I've never used them on the track but have for autotesting and they stood up to all the abuse. If fact I've still got the set should I autotest again.
You may consider a separate set of tyres (on wheels) for the track as unless you have the power say, >200bhp then those tyre sizes will actually slow you on the track. Besides, its disheartening to then drive around on massively scrubbed tyres on the street (unless you're into posing of course - a bit like knee sliders on bike leathers on the street) Clive |
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Those are some BIG shoes to fill! lol
back when my car was more GL I used to run P195/50R15 Yokohamas. They don't make that particular model now, but it has been superseded by this: http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/s.drive.aspx those tires were STICKY, and they lasted a long time. Alex
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thanks guys I'll Look into those.
anybuddy got anything Different, Alex I was Looking at those tires just last night too Seem like a good tire and at a Far price, and you Say they are Sticky and wear is good too ? Chris.
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I'm running Continental SportContacts on my TDI. Real nice. They grip very well, but they wear quickly. They are pricey, but lots of fun.
Have Kumho 712's on the super. Cheap tire, decent quality. They fought hard at last year's track day to keep the bug on the track with the 1600. Could spin that 235 tire at will with the 2332. Not impressed. Pete
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I had a set of Pirelli PZero's that gripped extremely well but the car always seemed to sit down in the corner as if taking up the squidgy side wall before it became stable - it didn't provide much confidence. I want to try some Kuhmo Ecsta V70 motorsport (road legal) radials on the bug. Clive |
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What you guys in the us call an 'R-compund' or semi-slick is what works best, period. There are tade-offs in noise and lifespan, but as Humble also says (and I agree again): the bug is usually more gentle on them than most other heavier cars. So for real grip, you want an R-rates tire or semi-slick as I call them. You can also look at the ' threadwear' rating on the side of the tire. Its a UTCG rating with 3 different ratings. The other two are for temperature and ...? Try to shoot for 60-120 for the threadwaer rating. Normal tires have 250-280 or so and even the before mentioned ' ultra high performance' tires have usually no less than 200. Its says how ' soft' the compound is but its relative to that manufactorer. Still, it gives a good reference I think. I have just bought a slightly used set of Toyo R888's (threadwear 100) for on the rear when the current Bridgestone (or was it Dunlop?) 'SP super sport race' are worn. Hopefully I can find the Kumho V70's or another set of 888's cheap as well for the front for next season. Last edited by Wally; November 20th 2009 at 12:10. |
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With tires that big and sticky moved by a 1641cc, they'll last a LONG time
Alex
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I've gone through a good number of tires, usually at least 2 sets per car per year. I blame the I-can't-help-but-drive-fast mountain roads. I see mostly sunny weather here, a month or 2 of constant rain in the winter and sometimes up to 4-6 inches of snow, yeah even in California 9 miles from the ocean. So here's what I've burned through:
Yokohama S.drive pretty grippy in dry and wet, not really affected by cold weather >45F. Great street tire and lasts very long with hard driving, but on the track it leaves you wanting more, a little pricey though, great for street though Yokohama A032R/A048R grooved R compound tire for street/track use. sticky like duct tape on duct tape, wears like butter on a hot skillet but you'll never be able to get that stupid grin off your face. Do not expose to cold temps below 40F, tires will harden and lose life, they are like plastic at those temps anyway. great for track and you can drive home on it (I do to scrub rubber off) not so good for the street Kumho Ecsta MX/XS more grip than the S.drive and they get stickier when they heat up. pretty long life on the bug so far 10k+ and maybe 50% to go. Good in the wet too but in the cold >40F they just slide. good track/street tire Hankook RS2/RS3 a lot like the kumhos but they stick more and wear a lot faster. got about 8k miles (stretching it) a set. these tires were fantastic in the wet and reacted like there was no water at all, good track/street tire Continental Contisport Contact 3 like the hankooks but cost twice as much, however they are not as good in the wet, good track/street tire BF Goodridge gforce t/a kd very sticky tire more than the hankook, not so good in the wet, useless in the cold, expensive and asymetrical so you can't rotate staggered wheels at all, but a great track tire that will survive on the street Bridgestone potensa re050a pole position expensive, better than the hankook and last as long as the kumho's, good tire and you get what you pay for. not very good in freezing temps good track/street tire Bridgestone potensa re-11 very sticky tire, great in the wet, great on the track but wears fast like the continentals. not good in the cold As a general rule I stay away from firestone, fusion, and sumitomo because they don't make any sticky tires. |
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I had the Eagle F1 GS-D3 on my T-Bird Super Coupe, used them for summer street driving and some open-track days. Nice ride and great grip, killer wet grip too, which I really loved.
Obviously comparing apples & oranges as far as the vehicle type here, but I've ridden with a few students at track days with those tires on various cars, and they've great on everything. Another one to look at is the Dunlop Direzza Star Spec, they are a max. performance tire, one step below an R-compound really. I have these on my Taurus SHO, which I put together primarily for doing track days with, but didn't want to be switching wheels & tires when I got there. Stiffer ride than the GS-D3, but grip is a level beyond for sure, and wet grip is quite impressive too. The first time I was out in the car this year for the Solo I school, I was basically driving by almost all of the other instructors in the pouring rain ... pretty funny when I had never been out on the track with the car before, and I had no idea where to set the shocks and tires. cheers Ed N.
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thanks for everyones help and when they get put on the Bug I'll let everyone know how they are thanks again Chris.
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I'm a little harder on my tires than most cruising through the mountains everyday. I've always wanted to try r-compound/semi slick tires for daily use but I would have to get smaller wheels to make tire prices a little more wallet friendly at the rate I go through tires. I've pondered redrilling the bug rotors to 5x100 and getting light 15x7" wheels just for this purpose.
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WOW Humble thanks for the Tire Bibel
I guess I have alot to think about... thanks to pete and Ed. Chris.
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I recently had some good success, with AVON Tech R, which as the name implies is a R compound slick racing tire..
I ran them on my DD for a weekend HPDE.. really liked them.. was not able to exploit them as the stock suspension did not really let me push as hard as I would have liked.. But if you do push them past their sticking point they were not as progressive as a street tire.. so you have to pay attention.. But as far as wear they were good, and they heated up pretty quick with the 3 series I was driving.. As you can expect the traction limits are much higher than street tires.. Hope that helps. Alex
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