GermanLook Forums  

Go Back   GermanLook Forums > General > Project Builds

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 22nd 2020, 12:43
CoolT1 CoolT1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 6
Building a German Look - Thoughts in one place

So after way to many years of half starts, partial; starts and no starts I figured it was time to get a single plan sorted and actually collect the parts and build a GermanLook Bug.

The Plan is quite simple - Get a VW Bug, make it look cool, go fast, handle well and be reliable.

Specs I think I am after :

Pre 1975 Super Bug - Curved Screen
Subaru Powered - 2.5L Turbo
Subaru Transmission - 5 Speed - Subaru Gears
Brakes - Either SubaBrakes or Porsche
Suspension - Coil Overs
Wheels - I really want some 3P Hartmann Porsche Twists but I don't think the budget will allow it so will probably settle for some Twists.
Seats - Recaro or similar
Electrical - Motec M1 with C Series Dash and PDM's as required
Roll Cage - 6 Point

I think that should do it as a start point , plan is to collect ideas and input for the rest of this year and kick it off in 2021 with the aim of Auto Cross before 2022 .

Don't know much about street cars at all been in offroad world my entire life but the idea of building a German Look has been bouncing for many many years and all this CVD 19 junk has moved it up the list of priorities. I have started a few times but always got distracted.

The Look I am after is something like @Steve C has, I have loved his ride since is WasserBoxer days

Looking for feedback and suggestions cause info is way cheaper than parts.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 24th 2020, 04:18
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,727
sounds like a good plan. There are some other good ECUs like Haltech and Link that are a lot cheaper
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 24th 2020, 12:26
CoolT1 CoolT1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
sounds like a good plan. There are some other good ECUs like Haltech and Link that are a lot cheaper
Don't disagree but I like Motec and have a solid relationship with them which has more value than the purchase price difference.

The guys at Westech will do the tune on it once I have it built and Motec will supply a base tune so that side of it is pretty simple.

I will do the loom from scratch which make it easier as I don't have any limitations.

Running a CanBUS makes it very simply to get things working and diag any issues and with DBW and variable boost, traction control, adjustable flow rates all easily controlled by the M1 and PDM's etc the electronics side of it is the least of my concerns.

I have been reading about guys moving the engines forward and may look at that to keep the cam covers inside the body and have found the SubaruGears transmissions to remove a lot of clutch issues as there are so many good options straight off the shelf.

I am thinking dry sump to get some clearance

What size wheels did you end up running on the street ? Are you using V-Force Guards and Tail ? do they still sell them ?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 24th 2020, 16:40
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,727
Hi

Andrew Todd the guy who does the Can Bus emulation modules for Subagears has new products out, I saw it on Facebook under AGT Engineering its a stand alone harness box.

I moved my motor and trans forward about 100 mm and widened the body to fit the cam covers in.

My wet sump is about as low exhaust headers

I'm running 18x8 and 18x10 wheels on the street.

V Force has closed, you can still buy the guards from Vintage Vee Dub Supplies in Sydney.

You could contact Richard Hozl who owned V Force via Facebook about a tail and guards I guess if he still has the moulds
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 26th 2020, 22:52
CoolT1 CoolT1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 6
Yeah I spoke to Andrew about the CANBUS Emulation and it is great to see what he is doing.

I am thinking I will go dry sump so I get no issues on the track and can increase capacity and cooling easier.

I will keep Vintage in mind when it comes to guards etc.

@Steve C are you running Porsche trailing arms or VW ?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 28th 2020, 12:15
owdlvr's Avatar
owdlvr owdlvr is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Canada - West Coast
Posts: 791
Where are you located?
__________________
'71 Type 1 - Rally Project
'58 Type 1 - I bought an early!?!
'73 Type 1 - Proper Germanlook project
'68 Type 1 - Interm German 'look' project
'75 Type 1 - Family Heirloom
'93 Chevy 3500 pickup - Cummins Swap
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old September 29th 2020, 02:18
CoolT1 CoolT1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by owdlvr View Post
Where are you located?
Down near San Diego CA USA
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old September 30th 2020, 18:22
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,727
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoolT1 View Post
Yeah I spoke to Andrew about the CANBUS Emulation and it is great to see what he is doing.

I am thinking I will go dry sump so I get no issues on the track and can increase capacity and cooling easier.

I will keep Vintage in mind when it comes to guards etc.

@Steve C are you running Porsche trailing arms or VW ?
Im using early alloy 944 arms with 930 CVs, this allowed for a longer drive shaft which helps with CV angles
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old October 2nd 2020, 12:33
DORIGTT's Avatar
DORIGTT DORIGTT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Forest Grove, Oregon
Posts: 687
How'd you get the 930 cvs in the early arms?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old October 2nd 2020, 20:02
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,727
I had a 930 pattern flange welded to my stub axles, this moved the flange inward slightly, its tight but they do fit, couldn't find a photo but I'm fitting drag radial this afternoon so I will try to remember to take a photo when the wheels are off
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old October 5th 2020, 02:17
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,727
some photos of 930 CVs in 944 arms and my modified stub axles
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 930cvs.jpg (77.0 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg 944_930_flanges.jpg (82.7 KB, 13 views)
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old October 5th 2020, 04:40
DORIGTT's Avatar
DORIGTT DORIGTT is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Forest Grove, Oregon
Posts: 687
I went the opposite way Steve. I had my 108mm inner flanges modified to accept 100mm CV's so I could use 944T axles.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old October 5th 2020, 16:52
Steve C's Avatar
Steve C Steve C is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,727
Quote:
Originally Posted by DORIGTT View Post
I went the opposite way Steve. I had my 108mm inner flanges modified to accept 100mm CV's so I could use 944T axles.
I needed the extra operation angle that the 930 CVs give
__________________
STI powered 1303 in the works.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 18:22.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© www.GermanLook.net 2002-2017. All Rights Reserved