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Old April 16th 2009, 06:16
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Unhappy emergency!! 901 box in a bug pleeeeease help!!

im really sorry guys but really need urgent help, my daily hack has bit the dust so my project bug has got to get rolling asap.

its a 77 bug, into which someone has installed a 901 box.

my question is the car was never run on the road- ie has been assembled but no further.

originally 2.4type 4 engine in it, but im putting a stock 1600 bug engine to get it going.

there is no starter- what starter do i need?

i put a post up a while ago but it has been deleted with the changeover methinks!

sorry to ask again.

please guys help asap, cheers in advance
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Old April 16th 2009, 14:28
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I was going to use a 901 in my car and the answer I got was to use an "AutoStick" starter with the 200mm type 1 flywheels. I built the transaxle, had the AutoStick starter but never got it in the car. I traded the 901 and starter away for a nice 66 bug for me daughter.
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Old April 16th 2009, 19:51
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Hey I jsut did this with a 1641 and all my info is in this link...

hope it helps.
http://www.germanlook.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9429

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Old April 16th 2009, 22:55
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starter motor.

I am using the stock porsche 901 starter motor on a 5spd. This will run into an STI engine via kennedy adapter bits. I just got my fresh trans back and have the following part number on the starter: Bosch 0-001-212-002 EB-> 12V .08PS

hope that helps...

I have a link to a local porsche race house that specializes in the older 911 cars if you need a line a verified parts...

keep us posted.
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Old April 19th 2009, 06:31
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hey chug- a- bug, what did you do starter wise?

i have a reconditioned 1600 type 1 (actually got out of a bay, but is type 1) theres no starter in the project, which one do i need to work well? i remember someone telling me a bug one would work but you had to machine into the gearbox casing slightly to allow the starter to go in more. do i use a porsche starter or bug starter, preferably bug, as i can get my hands on one no probs.

cheers jmd, i just wonder what the difference will be as im running just a stock bug motor, but ill deffo give you a shout if i need parts, cheers guys...
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Old April 19th 2009, 09:44
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I think I remember reading that the autostick VW and the 914 starter had the same part numbers and will work with the 200mm type 1 flyeheel.
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Old April 19th 2009, 11:21
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Hey Sorry about that...
Soo ya you can use a 091 bus /914 Starter,
but you willhave to Shave off about 8mm on the housing for the gear to Ingage.
a type1 Starter Will work but you wil just chew up the gear after a few Starts,
hope that help if ya need any thing else just ask...

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Old May 27th 2009, 13:51
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Hey Sorry about that...
Soo ya you can use a 091 bus /914 Starter,
but you willhave to Shave off about 8mm on the housing for the gear to Ingage.
a type1 Starter Will work but you wil just chew up the gear after a few Starts,
hope that help if ya need any thing else just ask...

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just got around to looking at this, am i gonna have to take box out or lift body at this stage to machine the casing??to machine it off are we talking a nice tidy job with a grinder or something a bit more proper??
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From talking with Martin, a while back.

Another option you can use is utilizing an IMI-104 starter which has a little longer engagement than the IMI 101.. if memory serves me correct.

http://www.hitorque.com/index.php

Can't remember price.. vs machining housing.
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Old June 25th 2009, 14:39
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From talking with Martin, a while back.

Another option you can use is utilizing an IMI-104 starter which has a little longer engagement than the IMI 101.. if memory serves me correct.

http://www.hitorque.com/index.php

Can't remember price.. vs machining housing.
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guys im totally stumped wit this, cant figure out way forward, can anyone post up shift pattern for this box, and anyone direct me to any how to's??
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901 shift pattern:

R-2-4
1-3-5
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901 shift pattern:

R-2-4
1-3-5
cheers buddy, engine going in soon, hopefully all will be ok.......
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Old September 28th 2009, 12:38
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the engine and flywheel fits into the bell housing ok, but the starter wont contact it.

the engine came out of a bay and has the large 280mm flywheel.

ive been told to use porsche starter.

ive also been told to use 912 flywheel on a beetle engine to get it to engage with starter.

but i went to look at a 912 a mate of mine has. it has beetle engine. but the flywheel is the same width (280) and depth (37 mm away from engine case to edge of flywheel tooth nearest gearbox)



can you guys tell me something- is the 912 flywheel the same as the type 2(bay) 280 mm flywheel.

is there anyone out there that could help me with this?
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Old September 28th 2009, 13:29
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hey... if you are using a T1 then you Need a 200mm flywheel and a autostick/bus Starter and you are going to have to take out the Stud that holds the starter and shave
about 5mm off, then everything Should work. hope that helps

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hey... if you are using a T1 then you Need a 200mm flywheel and a autostick/bus Starter and you are going to have to take out the Stud that holds the starter and shave
about 5mm off, then everything Should work. hope that helps

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brilliant!!!

gotit started!!! wooooooooohooooooooo!!!

using a 914/ t25 auto starter......... works a treat!!

ok........... next problem........

i have stock beetle clutch cable with special ends for porsche throw out arm.

when i press clutch, the arm is pulling underneath ok to throw out the bearing but only moves slightly before hitting gearbox case underneath.

it seems to me like i should maybe have a spacer behind the throw out arm, means the release bearing would be closer to the clutch and the arm could travel more underneath........ or else slightly bend the arm, but worried about that one!!

any ideas??
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