willwood ? pedal assembly

[graham]

Anyone had any experience with after market pedal assembly's in beetles ?
Wilwood , opb or similar. I am trying to get adjustable brake bias and hydraulic clutch sorted.I like the fine tuning they offer so any info on models would be a great help thanks in advance.

[owdlvr]

measure carefully, because some cutting is definitely going to be necessary. Here's a willwood set in a GL beetle my buddy is working on. Notice the space needed for master cylinders, and the dotted lines on the tunnel where "foot clearance" is likely to be needed.



Now, you can probably get some of the space back by using a pedal set that puts the master cylinders under your heels (which is how my next car is done), but they tend to be a little more money than the style shown above. Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the modifications they made to the make the above pedal set work. Trans tunnel was trimmed, and the front bulkhead was modified on both the pan and body.

-Dave

[graham]

Hi thanks for your reply, for some reason I cant see your pics.Ive been looking at this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kit-Car-Hy...item2c7876369d

What do you think ? it seems to be a pretty good fit size wise with just the minimal of cutting.The type with the master cylinders reversed are nearly twice the price

I no nothing about master cylinders but does anyone know if these would be suitable for the 944 turbo 4 pots ive fitted ?

[Steve C]

Hi

See what are people are using, going to a Wilwood setup is fairly radical and may not be needed, Im using a CSP unit with Boxster brakes all round and my pedal is fine and modulation is great.

Steve

[graham]

Originally Posted by Steve C

Hi

See what are people are using, going to a Wilwood setup is fairly radical and may not be needed, Im using a CSP unit with Boxster brakes all round and my pedal is fine and modulation is great.

Steve

I was thinking of something similar to Willwood as their units are way over budgetbut what's got me thinking is the issue of brake balance.I really want the option to be able to adjust it to give more braking at the ear.

What CSP unit have you used Steve ?

[Steve C]

Hi

I'm using this one http://www.csp-shop.com/products/Whe...er/20815a/det/

It has 20,64mm bore

[owdlvr]

Originally Posted by graham

...but what's got me thinking is the issue of brake balance.I really want the option to be able to adjust it to give more braking at the ear.

Simple solution to that. Run a brake bias valve, but place the valve in the front brake line before a T which then goes left and right. Gets a touch messy as you have to run the line through the bulkhead to the interior, and then back through the bulkhead to a T-fitting.

-Dave

[graham]

Thanks for the advice fellas that's a real help

[SuperRSi]

I am using OBP pedals with cabin facing masters on both my Manx and Beetle builds. I will take a picture when I can. The OBP can be seen on their website or even on EBay.

[Steve C]

Originally Posted by owdlvr

Simple solution to that. Run a brake bias valve, but place the valve in the front brake line before a T which then goes left and right. Gets a touch messy as you have to run the line through the bulkhead to the interior, and then back through the bulkhead to a T-fitting.

-Dave

I saw a system years ago with cable operated bias valve, that would save running lines into the cabin

[ricola]

If I was to do it again I wouldn't bother, just convert to hydraulic clutch and use a 21mm dual circuit master with rear bias valve if required. I've spent a small fortune on different master cylinders getting it right!

[SuperRSi]

Ricola what sizes of masters with which calipers did you end up with?

Thanks

[ricola]

996 calipers front and rear, 0.5" masters for both front and 0.7" for G50 stage 2 clutch..

[graham]

Originally Posted by ricola

If I was to do it again I wouldn't bother, just convert to hydraulic clutch and use a 21mm dual circuit master with rear bias valve if required. I've spent a small fortune on different master cylinders getting it right!

I've just remembered you sent me a link on this before Rich I had forgotten all about it.

Here's the link for anyone else considering pedal assembly mods.

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/v...d=78092&page=3