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Tail shaft gaskets
Hi, I'm in the process of removing my tail shaft, well as of today I have it off. Since I am doing in install on the cheap, I have removed the speed-o sender, trying to get the trans closer. Upon close inspection, I find that having my friend mill off the protrusion of the speed-o bump will help me capture the closer install. The intermediate plate wanted to loosen, I believe it had been leaking in the past. has anyone removed the intermediate plate and gears without removing the stub axles? I think I will need to re-gasket the area.
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Page five of my build thread. http://www.germanlook.net/forums/sho...t=11341&page=5
I've pulled the tailshaft and intermediate plate without pulling the diff or stub axles. Once I had it out, I found an old seal mashed up inside which is why you'll see the diff and side plate all removed. Let me know how I can help. -Dave
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Hi Dave, I read your reply but I did not read if I could replace the intermediate spacer gasket with taking apart the gear stack. Did I miss it?
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The intermediate plate gasket can be swapped without too much disassembly. You will need to remove the nose one and reverse gear assembly. Then the small cover on the side. The intermediate plate slides out with the entire gear stack. There is a trick with the shifter to get the stack out, but I'm not sure I totally remember it. I think it was simply put it into neutral first.
Any how, slide the gears tack assembly out of the transmission case, swap the gasket, and slide it back in. -Dave
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Ok
Ok, I start on it as soon as my machinst mills off my speed-o housing.
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[QUOTE=owdlvr; There is a trick with the shifter to get the stack out, but I'm not sure I totally remember it. I think it was simply put it into neutral first.
Any how, slide the gears tack assembly out of the transmission case, swap the gasket, and slide it back in. -Dave[/QUOTE] Hi, I'm in the process of having my tailshaft welded. However I can't remove the intermediate spacer and gears. I can feel it engaged with the side plate. Is there anyone on this sight that has pictures of how to remove the intermediate housing and gears. Dave is correct, in that I will need to put the shafter into some gear. At present I can turn the input shaft and the tail shaft spins, so it is in gear. I need to have the tailshaft housing welded, but I think I can do it on the cheap. I plan to go to summit racing for a trans cross member Last edited by effvee; July 12th 2012 at 21:39. |
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Turns out I posted directions on how to remove the intermediate plate assembly on another forum. I'll find the link tomorrow when I have my laptop and post the info here.
-Dave
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Okay, here is my initial Pelican Parts Post. This is posted in full so that you can understand where i was at with my trans:
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I posted this the next day: Quote:
And then finally this: Quote:
I hope that helps! -Dave
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I am no clear
Hi, again thank you very much for sharing your insight. But in my case, I have the nose cone off. I tried to remove the shift guide from the side cover. something is differently engaged and it won't allow the assembly to disengage. The side plate sort of titer totter, but won't release the engagement; if this make sense. I also note that I can't shift the tail shaft shift rod into any gear. It must be some gear range or shifter position in order for it to disengage.
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Ahh, yes, I had that problem. The side plate doesn't pop straight out, you pull it straight out and then on an angle. To be totally honest, I tapped mine out with a small hammer the first time.
-Dave
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Manual
Well I think that i'm going to need to buy a manual. I don't want to force things, and I also don't want to break the side cover. Thanks again
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Got it Open
I think it need to be in neautral, all other gears would not release. Once in neautral, the side plate came out with no pressure on it. I noted where someone had deburred/ground on some area in the interior at some point. Because the trans was UPS to me, I don't have to old oil to inspcet. However this trans looks very nice. Lastly, if the side plate will not come out with ease, don't force it, its in some gear; you are going to start breaking something. |
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From what I can see, that looks very clean. Better then mine, for sure.
...just in case, my "tap it with a hammer", is literally tapping with a small body hammer. "tink, tink, tink"...not "hammering". But, if it's simply a case of neutral and it pops out, awesome! Good tip! -Dave
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Case seals
Hi, I am going to get the case cleaned for a better inspection and overhaul looks. I noted that both the axle flanges had new bolts. They were quite tight, I removed them in order to have the case dipped/cleaning. I'll place an order to Pelican parts for a gasket/seal kit. Question I noted that there were two gaskets at the trans case to intermediate plate, it this the gasket shims that has been mentioned?
Next question, I recall were racers that have unsed a AN-2 or 3 braided line, tapping it to the throwout bearng for future greasing. The cut an inlongated slot in the case greasing of the serk. Anyone know of this, not trying to be cheap, I just don't like to have ot remove the entire engine assembly just to replace the Throw out bearing Last edited by effvee; July 23rd 2012 at 23:04. |
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Cleaning parts
Hi, its going slow, having money troubles . But I can do the dirty stuff, I can do it for free . So here's the plan, I want to mock up the trans. It will be much easier if I mock up the trans case empty. I have the side plate off and the diff just come out in your hand freely.
I will have the case dipped cleaned. I will temporary install the tail shaft housing onto the case, without the intermediate gear stack. I'll have my friend make me four blocks the thickness of the intermediate plate for true measurement. I don't think the whole case will be over 40 pounds. Sounds like a plan |
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