GermanLook Forums  

Go Back   GermanLook Forums > Technical Section > Suspension

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old February 23rd 2004, 14:18
Bugnutz's Avatar
Bugnutz Bugnutz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Rochester, NY USA
Posts: 19
On the same case!

Zen,

Thanks a lot for sending the photos. I am working on exactly the same problem- I don't have enough fender clearance, and will need to change from the late "dished" hubs and wider hat section rotors to early flat hubs and the rotors like your new ones. The photos will help out a lot when I go for the parts.

Regards, Mark.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old February 23rd 2004, 15:59
zen's Avatar
zen zen is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: atlanta, ga
Posts: 2,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Hello Zen,

As you've got both early and late alu arms side by side, does it look ok that the hub of the early alu arm can be used on the late alu arm?

Thanks
Tim
i've never had them apart so can't speak for bearing, stub and hub interchangeability. some others here might be able to. attached is a better pic of the hub comparison. not much of a help, but better than nothing.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg early and late track comparison 3.jpg (56.0 KB, 360 views)
__________________
zen
'73 2316 TIV GL Standard Bug (quasi)


Company Branding, Graphic Design, and Web Services at DigiVinci Design
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old February 24th 2004, 06:56
Tim Tim is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 182
Thanks Zen. The lock nuts look the same but not sure if the number of splines and the diameter of the stubs are the same.

Regards
Tim
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old February 24th 2004, 09:18
zen's Avatar
zen zen is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: atlanta, ga
Posts: 2,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Thanks Zen. The lock nuts look the same but not sure if the number of splines and the diameter of the stubs are the same.

Regards
Tim
i will try to get some measurements on that, but am in a bit of a scramble. remind me in a couple weeks if i haven't done it. will try to do it in the next coupld of days though.
__________________
zen
'73 2316 TIV GL Standard Bug (quasi)


Company Branding, Graphic Design, and Web Services at DigiVinci Design
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old June 6th 2004, 14:37
LOAF's Avatar
LOAF LOAF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Belleville, NJ
Posts: 459
Question to all,

Is it possible to limit the travel on the rear (regardless of whether it is an early or late alumn. set up by using a Macpherson Strut (Bump stop) Bushing. Like most new cars have on the front. But for our application install it on the rear strut?

If possible this would seem like a much easier solution than finding a place to install the vw stop..

Now that I have my assembly (late alumn) and am ready for the install, I am noticing more and more issues..

But that is life

ALex
__________________
78 Vert, In pieces and on hold
also a
73 Saloon, currently being built..
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old June 6th 2004, 15:01
boygenius's Avatar
boygenius boygenius is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Spring Hill. Florida
Posts: 1,663
Bump stop pics...

I used some summit universal bump stops an ddrilled and tapped the shock tower at the correct angle so they would hit the top of the trailing arm. On the right side I screwed up the angle and broke off a tap in the shock tower. I wnet to home depot and bought a .06 cent nut and welded it into the shock tower at the correct angle...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg car pictures 005.jpg (74.4 KB, 394 views)
File Type: jpg car pictures 006.jpg (54.8 KB, 332 views)
__________________
I love my money pit, uhm, err, I mean my car.
1969 beetle in the works... 2.0 type 4 DTM...
2004 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 crashed
www.volksport.net Volksport Kfer Gruppe

Last edited by boygenius; June 6th 2004 at 15:05.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old June 7th 2004, 22:11
LOAF's Avatar
LOAF LOAF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Belleville, NJ
Posts: 459
Sorta what I was thinking.. but your idea is better..

Thanks again.. and nice...
Alex
__________________
78 Vert, In pieces and on hold
also a
73 Saloon, currently being built..
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old July 7th 2004, 01:05
boygenius's Avatar
boygenius boygenius is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Spring Hill. Florida
Posts: 1,663
Alignment help.

Just a simple way to get your trailing arms pretty straight when bolting them up. I used a 3/8" drive extension and a 16mm craftsman socket to hold the trailing arm in place while the bolts were tightened down. At least that way your rear end would be straight enough to get to the alignment shop.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg alignment tool.jpg (78.3 KB, 333 views)
File Type: jpg alignment tool 2.jpg (73.5 KB, 286 views)
__________________
I love my money pit, uhm, err, I mean my car.
1969 beetle in the works... 2.0 type 4 DTM...
2004 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 crashed
www.volksport.net Volksport Kfer Gruppe
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old July 11th 2004, 00:22
Humble's Avatar
Humble Humble is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 758
that's a pretty high tech alignment tool

i just picked up a second set of trailing arms to do a straight up swap. they guy says they're off an 87 944 turbo. 4 pot calipers all around, but the rear arms are funky.

they have the early cast in bumpstop, but the late wider track. just when i though everything was making sense :P
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old July 11th 2004, 00:53
boygenius's Avatar
boygenius boygenius is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Spring Hill. Florida
Posts: 1,663
Hmmmm. Can you post some pics. I know that the 1986 turbo had the early aluminum trailing arms with less track increase.
Well since they have the bump stop area in the arm that should make for one less challenge in installing them. :agree:
__________________
I love my money pit, uhm, err, I mean my car.
1969 beetle in the works... 2.0 type 4 DTM...
2004 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 crashed
www.volksport.net Volksport Kfer Gruppe
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old July 11th 2004, 02:11
Humble's Avatar
Humble Humble is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 758
no prob, i'll have to get a camera from work so it won't be till mon or tues. basically it looks like the early alu. arm with a late turbo hub. i'll measure the caliper bolt spacing and see if there's a difference in the 2 sets of arms also
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old July 11th 2004, 02:16
boygenius's Avatar
boygenius boygenius is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Spring Hill. Florida
Posts: 1,663
Maybe someone switched rear hubs to get more track for their car.
__________________
I love my money pit, uhm, err, I mean my car.
1969 beetle in the works... 2.0 type 4 DTM...
2004 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 crashed
www.volksport.net Volksport Kfer Gruppe
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old July 11th 2004, 11:06
Supa Ninja Supa Ninja is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 627
I got the complete rear suspension from a '86 NA and I measures the track from the spring plate and it was the later style as well as it uses the longer half shafts. I wonder if they went to the wider setup mid 86?
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old December 6th 2005, 03:00
jonnyspatter's Avatar
jonnyspatter jonnyspatter is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coventry - 6348 miles east of America
Posts: 9
Thought you might like this pic.
On the right is a standard 1303 seni-trailing arm, in the centre is a steel 944 arm (which I think is identical bar the wheel hub assembly), while on the left is an ally 944 arm.
I was going to use the ally job on my '03 until I saw the extra width it'll add to the rear wheels!

Another point to note is that the bolt pattern for the ally arm will not fit the 1303 spring plate, where the steel will.

Hope this helps.
__________________
Coventry Aircooled Vee-Dub Club
WIE SEIN GETAN IN DEUTSCHLAND
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old December 6th 2005, 17:24
wrenchnride247's Avatar
wrenchnride247 wrenchnride247 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cleveland,TN
Posts: 1,272
I like the wide arms

I need the wide trailing arms for my bug. The wheels i've got are 993s the fronts are 7x16 with 55mm offset and 150mm backspacing, while the rears are 9x16 with 70mm offset with 190mm(wow!). I have 2 inch wider fenders front and rear, so i need to push the wheels out to the fender lips. Will the front hubs from'92-'95 968 add more track like the rear arms will?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 00:33.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© www.GermanLook.net 2002-2017. All Rights Reserved