GermanLook Forums  

Go Back   GermanLook Forums > Technical Section > Engines

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old September 25th 2003, 17:09
kdanie kdanie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Petaluma CA
Posts: 358
I would do a really big type 4 with all the trick tech available like cryo, coatings, nickies, custom forged rods/pistons, trick euro heads, light weight valve train, carbon fiber valve covers and 911 shroud, supercharger/intercooler and fire it with a programable EFI/ignition. Bolt it to a 915 5 speed and have a ball... (until my DL is suspended...)
ken
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old September 25th 2003, 22:38
Michael Ghia's Avatar
Michael Ghia Michael Ghia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire... UK
Posts: 214
Holzapfel engine?

Ok, I've had a quick search on the internet... what is a Holzapfel engine? I've never heard of anything like this....
Or is there a joke hidden in here somewhere?

MG
__________________
Modification is a form of art.

Performanceghia is still alive and kicking...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old September 26th 2003, 07:54
Tim Tim is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 182
Hi petevw,

No problem for me to take a trip to Toronto. Let me go back to the dream. See ya!

Tim
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old September 26th 2003, 13:44
petevw's Avatar
petevw petevw is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: toronto, ontario, canada
Posts: 1,348
i've seen the motor, but i can't find a pic.
this is the only info i found.
i believe Alex has pics.

Holzapfel-Tuning
Rolf Holzapfel
(Motorentuning und Teile für Käfer)
Böblinger Strasse 5
71229 Leonberg
Tel (07152) 394400
Fax 394401
Holzapfel-Tuning@t-online.de

3rd in this race
http://www.uhsport.de/tabellen/tab2a.htm


http://www.competition43.de/vw.htm

http://www.memory-corner.de/dc13okt.htm

http://www.rennsportfotos.de/rennspor.htm
__________________
'72 super
'65 bus
'52 split
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old September 26th 2003, 14:40
Shadowbug's Avatar
Shadowbug Shadowbug is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 191
2.4L Type 4, with a set of cut down 911 heads
programmable fuel injection and quad throttlebodies

micropolished internals and B.A.S. Beetle Cup exhaust system
all tucked nicely into my '54 oval.

for cooling I'd have to go with One of Jake's 911 setup still in development, in carbon fibre.

mated to a porsche AWD Box
__________________
a few pics of my project
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old September 26th 2003, 14:50
vujade's Avatar
vujade vujade is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: DB, FL, US
Posts: 2,705
here is another option os money was no object

__________________
WinterJam 2010: Vdub, Surf, Skate & Musis Fest
WinterJam 2010

'I drive way to fast to worry about cholesterol!'

'67 Sunroof Notchback * '68 FI Squareback
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old September 26th 2003, 19:16
Alex's Avatar
Alex Alex is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,115
I am not sure if my data is correct but here I go anyways:

The Holzapfel engine is based on the T4 with 993 heads with EFI.
Pics are in the engine gallery. Dr Gerold's Race Super has the engine in the back. In race trim the engine produces 280hp for the street I believe it was about 250hp. This is a NA engine.

Pics are in the gallery here at Germanlook ....where else:

http://www.germanlook.com/Functions/...mages/0064.jpg

http://www.germanlook.com/Functions/...mages/0065.jpg

Another option would be a 2.6-2.8 T4 with Apfelbeck heads (pic in the engine gallery) ...if you find them. Two T4s with them reached the 100hp per liter mark. Those are the only T4s that had those heads as far as I know.



Alex
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old September 26th 2003, 19:33
Michael Ghia's Avatar
Michael Ghia Michael Ghia is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire... UK
Posts: 214
Ahhhhh, so thats it.

I had seen pics of it but didn't know it was called that.

Nice motor... nice amount of bhp...

MG
__________________
Modification is a form of art.

Performanceghia is still alive and kicking...
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old September 26th 2003, 20:37
yetibone's Avatar
yetibone yetibone is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 705
You nailed it vujade! The engine in that pic is what I would want!


Who wants to chip in on the "Buy Yeti a Trick Type IV Fund"?:silly:


Back to reality, I'll settle for a 2.3 with Dell's


Yetibone

P.S.
I know it's out of Mike's criteria, but I hatched a truly whacked out Beetle drivetrain idea from a car I had to work on Thursday...

500cid Cadillac V8, TH425 Transaxle; straight from the Battleship Eldorado!:toilet:

(ok... so mabye that was a bad dream)
__________________
Yetibone
'71 1302S 1.8
'73 1303S 2.3
'83 928S 4.7
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old September 27th 2003, 08:48
vujade's Avatar
vujade vujade is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: DB, FL, US
Posts: 2,705
Yeti,do you know that engine is?

thats a 4 cylinder 911 engine.
they cut out the two center cylinders.
pretty sweet !
__________________
WinterJam 2010: Vdub, Surf, Skate & Musis Fest
WinterJam 2010

'I drive way to fast to worry about cholesterol!'

'67 Sunroof Notchback * '68 FI Squareback
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old September 27th 2003, 22:02
chigger chigger is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 142
I would run a 69mm crank with 94mm cylinders forged crank wedge mated, forged aluminum rods and pistons, heads adapted off a twin cam four valve cylinder 911 motor with true hemispherical chambers. Ceramic on the heads and pistons, supercharger with intercooler, and hilborn fuel injection. EFI with four 54mm throttle bodies for the street. A modified EFI to inject a methanol water mixture to control head temperature with a 911 fan. A six speed lds with paddle shifters. Home made exhaust with supertrapp tunable mufflers, fully programable MSD ignition system so I could shift with out lifting the throttle. A thirty gallon gas tank so I could go to the store and back without having to stop for gas.
Big sigh! Ain't gonna happen.





Stress is having to write a Harry Potter romance story and keep it G-rated so your kids can read it. Futher stress is when you did such a good job on the first one you are asked to write three more.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old September 30th 2003, 02:31
Eurolook71 Eurolook71 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Alhambra, Ca
Posts: 116
Jeez, now you guys got me thinking about my dream motor, oh wait I'm ALWAYS thinking about my dream motor...here goes

JAKE BUILT 2270 "Z"
NEW case
Remmele Heads
Nickies
CR around 9.5
DTM
Cryoed
Ceramic everywhere
EFI
Remmele exhaust

Mated to (heres the REALLY expensive part, like $10K , no joke)
a QUAIFLE (sp?) 6speed Tranny

but...If I ever have kids and wanna send 'em to college, I could settle for a 901 5speed

oh, and driven daily of course :silly:

If not Aircooled, I would consider the Renesis rotory motor (the one in the RX8) That thing is like 1.3L and pumps out almost 240 horses. Mate that to a 901 (time to call up KEP!!) and see what happeneds!!
__________________
=EuroLook71=
71' Super Beetle
1.6L DP - Kadrons, stock heads P&P by me

Last edited by Eurolook71; September 30th 2003 at 02:51.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old October 4th 2003, 00:54
NO_H2O's Avatar
NO_H2O NO_H2O is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Stockbridge, GA.
Posts: 2,810
I think I would just call Jake and ask him to build that wild/sick engine that he has kicking around in his head(and note books). Nickies, cryo'ed, don't hold nothing back.
__________________
NO_H2O
72 1302 Smack Black GL
73 Bus (2L CIS Powered)
66 Beetle, 73 Standard Beetle
72 Pinzgauer 710M
Volksport Kafer Gruppe
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 15:41.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© www.GermanLook.net 2002-2017. All Rights Reserved