Which do you think makes the car look more GL?

[oicdn]

Stuck here....of all things, choosing rims.

This is the look I'm trying to go after:


I know it's GL...but see how it just looks intimidating sitting there...the deep dish rims make it look mean...but you can get the same look with regular non "deep dish" rims, I'm just stuck as to how to achieve it, lol.

So here's what I've broken it down to choice wise.

Phone dials 16":
http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/f8/72/bd_12_b.JPG

Boxter twist 17":
http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/66/22/e4_12_sb.JPG

Porsche Comp 18":
http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/51...tion_front.jpg
http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/51...tion_right.jpg

ROH ZS 16"
http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/40/36/aa_1_b.JPG
http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/3f/cc/db_1_b.JPG
http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/39/19/f1_1_b.JPG

I'm really stuck as to what I want. I really liked that one black super on here with black phone dials, kakarottt's ride But they're only 16. Gonna have a kinda fatty tire on there, but it didn't look bad on the afore mentioned Super....also, they're not staggered rims (wider in back than front)...

Boxter twists and the turbo twists are so similar it's almost (IMO atleast) pointless to pay the extra for the turbo twists. The plus is that thier 17's....

The Porsche Comp. REALLY DIG the look. DEEP dish makes the car look thicker. And it doesn't look like the cheesy cheap BBS wheels you commonly see. Only negative is that they're 18's....I'm planning on widened fenders anyhow, but I'm unsure as to if the weight difference in the wheels compared to a 17 or 16 is negligible with these specific wheels.

The ROH ZS....nice looking, not DEEP, but still nice looking. Only drawback is it's a 16.....again, with the fatty tire....it might look "cheap"....

As far as asthetics go, I think wheels make or break a car....I'm just WAAAAY unsure about which to pick....Also, I want to somewhat be different, straying away fromt he typical Porsche Cups or Twists wheels, but still stay "german look".....what are your opinions?

[rip]

ive been partial to the boxter twists, was seriously concidering these before I went jap import stuff.

But as far as what looks german look well... as long as its >16" in dia I think it's gl. people have different definitions, but in the end I'd go with what you like, not a based on a look.

How far are you? possible go the import route, tons of wheels there just gotta make sure their good, a lot of crap out there. but if you havn't got brakes or your rotors studed for pcd well might be a good alternative.

easy
rip

[oicdn]

Well, I snagged me up some of these:

Porsche Comp 18":



I know I'm definitly going to need spacers. I'm just unsure as to how much to have.

Here's the specs of the wheels:
Size (front) 18x8.5
Size (rear) 18x10
Offset 52MM

My set-up:
87 Porsche 944T calipers and rotor
Machined hub/spindle from VDub (not done yet)
86 944T Rear control arms, hubs, etc.....

I also know I'm going to need widened fenders, which I plan on getting/doing along with the conversion.

Yeah, I know, I know...heavy, large wheels. I'm not worried about speed or power loss right now as the motor is the last thing I'm worried about. I just want to get my handling to TOP shape. But I don't think those wheels are too heavy compared to 17's like Turbo Twists, Boxters, Cups....I just can't see it weighing too much more considering it's not a one piece of forged material....but I could be wrong....

Anybody know what size spacers I'll need? Or what other route can I go without needing spacers? Also, what size tires am I going to need to keep the stock tire height?

[jrinlv]

Well I love the car shown, but for me I went with 16 in phones because rubber is a fair price still, and I also thought about going black with them, I still might. But right now I think I will keep them silver...JR

[rip]

well please tell me you don't have a super, as I don't think they will fit well. And when I say well I mean good turning and scrub with a super, that 8.5 up front is the problem.

If you have a standard well they might work, but you will need a huge spacer if you want your turning close to stock. Generally though people get by with a bit larger than stock.

let me know how much the brakes increase the front track and I can plug that into the formulas, and if you will be using dropped spindles.

Let me know and I can give you a better idea. But as is the spacer should be in the range of 2inches. That wide front rim hurts. That will get you to about a 20 ft turning circle (stock is 18). And just to let you know you'll need in the range of a 3 inch wider front fender to fit them. Can't you get a smaller front, the norm is 7 inches and well that still isn't "easy" takes some thought to get them to work, and 8's or even 8.5's will be really hard.

easy
rip

[rip]

just some of the info I've gather from the past

Name..............width...........et...........spa cer.......dropped?...........turn...........%..... ......scrub
Lanner...........7.0...........38.0...........12.7 ...........0.25...........19.9...........10.8..... ......21.1
Trevor...........7.0...........23.3...........0.0. ..........0.00...........20.5...........13.9...... .....16.7
Trevor...........7.0...........38.0...........5.0. ..........0.00...........21.9...........21.8...... .....7.0
Chris.............6.0...........50.0...........8.0 ...........0.25...........20.5...........13.7..... ......4.4
Bren..............7.0...........40.0...........0.0 ...........0.25...........22.0...........22.4..... ......6.4
Dasdubber......7.5...........52.0...........20.0.. .........0.25...........21.8...........21.0....... ....14.4
nodose..........7.0...........55.0...........25.4. ..........0.25...........20.5...........13.9...... .....16.8
BWE.............7.0...........43.0...........15.9. ..........0.25...........20.2...........12.1...... .....19.2
Zen..............7.0...........55.0...........38.1 ...........0.25...........18.9...........5.1...... .....29.5
PaulGrey.......7.5...........45.0...........25.4.. .........0.25...........20.0...........11.2....... ....26.8


just to give you an idea of what others have done.

BTW my little "dont sue me" statement, I in no way responcible for the correctness of these replies, understand that each case is unique and that these are not exact. Use the given info at your own risk.

I made a sheet for my own use and don't know if it is correct, but seems right. The specs from above I found searching though this forum, so I'm pretty sure that is all okay, but the turning circle and scrub stuff well thats from the sheet, and will be off.

[volkdent]

Something 17", 18" is a little too hard to work with up front if you want to get low, or go 17" front 18" rear. 4X100 will give you the best bang for the buck and there are A LOT of really good looking Jap wheels, but those Porsche Comps are as GL as it gets.

Jason

[rip]

Originally Posted by oicdn

Yeah, I have a super...no dropped spindles...just stock ones machined for the Turbo 944 brakes. I know now I'll probably DEFINITLY need maxx coil-overs, cause I think a tapered spring or even the CRX conversion will rub.....

with the change in struts that should help minimize the need of spacers. Maxx struts let you use a back spacing up to 6", so about a 20mm spacer should work with 2.5 wider fenders.

[oasis]

Originally Posted by oicdn

The Porsche Comp. REALLY DIG the look. DEEP dish makes the car look thicker. And it doesn't look like the cheesy cheap BBS wheels you commonly see.

Cheesy cheap?

These look like the BBS LM rims which costs $1584 for the front two (18x8) and $1692 for the rear two (18x9½) for a Porsche Boxter. If nearly $3300 for rims alone are cheesy cheap, I need to rob a few more banks. (I thought BBS made wheels for VW, Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche as well as bonafide open- and close-wheel race cars.)

[oicdn]

I know BBS makes some sick wheels, but I'm tlaking about the most common BBS wheel you find on crap today....





You see those on every old Corolla or Camry out there. I dunno why the Euro guys have such a fascination with them either...you seem those wheels ALL OVER THE PLACE in the VW magazines on Jettas, Golfs and whatever other car in like 14" size with tires that are too narrow for the rim and really low profile...yuck.

[rip]

okay so here's my calcs

with the struts allowing only 6" of bcksp (~152.4mm)
then assuming your billet hub increase width by .55" (~14mm)

okay so lets look at your wheels 8.5" (~215.9mm)
ET is 52mm
center is 108.0
assuming a 12.7mm bead lip
your bcksp is 172.7mm
your frntsp is 68.7mm

Now the stock ones 4" (~101.6mm)
ET is 40mm
center is 50.8
assuming a 12.7mm bead lip
stock bcksp is 103.5mm
stock frntsp is 23.5mm

with the brakes your bcksp will be 172.7mm-14mm=158.7mm
now 158.7mm is about 6mm more than the allowed 6" of bcksp so see if Lanner can make those hubs a bit wider or use spacer

Now for the front 68.7mm+14mm=82.7mm and comparing that to the stock front space of 23.5 your over by 82.7-23.5=59.2mm which is a little bit more than 2", by about 8.3mm.

So if you want a slightly tucked look 4.4mm in compared to stock or a little bit pushed out look of 8.3mm compared to stock, it up to you, but this will all change with the brake's spacing.

good luck

[shuff]

My 78 03 cabrio runs 7.5x17 et52 cup 2 replicas front and rear. Front tyres are 205/40x17 Avons with stock wings. It runs Kerscher struts with Kersher vented discs with 944 single pot calipers. Camber adjustment is set to max on the strut and track control arms and the tyres still occassionally rub but i can live with it, although i did think about going to 195 size front tyres.
Rears are same wheels with 215/45x17 Avons with stock trailing arms and early 944 rear brakes. Rear wings are stockers that i widened by 1.5 inches. No clearance problems here.
Pix to follow soon.

[oasis]

I see its your first post, shuff. Welcome aboard!