Alternative Fuel Tank Suggestions

[NO_H2O]

The Fuel Safe cell in Herbie X has a sender in it. It was 16 gal before the foam went in (prob. 13 gal. now) I think he paid over 2K to have it made but it wa a custom job.

[SuperRSi]

So who did make the Manxster tank?

Thanks

[BulletBug]

i got one to suggest .... its from ATL... it fit perfectly under our spare tyre space... i will fill 12 Gallon (40L)... the diameter is 22'....i found this setup been used by a racer from japan... nice 1302... the price im not sure around $536.00... and they have an 8 Gallon one for $498.20....

more info go to... www.atlinc.com

hope this can help u abit in ur journey..

[BulletBug]

if u want to view the racer from japan.. go to germanlook.com..

1. go to feature article (more features)

2. go to japanese racer (light blue 1302)

[lovebugrcr]

so that fuel cell from myers manxter will fit in a superbeetle? i have been looking into putting a cell in my car but i didn't want to take up as much room as the one above. i still wanted kind of a factory fit but not factory equipment.

[Humble]

Here's a pic of my ATL well cell tank. It's a 12 gal. unit with a fuel level sender. If you get the 10 gal. one it's not as tall. Lowers the center of gravity quite a bit for the front axle and gives it a little more grip from what I've heard. This is the same tank that that Jeffery's race car in japan uses if I remember correctly.

[BulletBug]

nicely put humble... any idea how much is the cost including the fuel level sender??

how to brace the tank so that it doesnt budge?

[Humble]

I think the tank and sender ran me about $560-600 or so which is pretty cheap for a fuel cell. Fuelsafe units can easily clear $1000. If you look at the top plate you can see the black fingers bolted to it. Those will pinch down on a couple of aluminum straps and the straps will bolt down on either side of the tank.

Something else to consider with fuel cells that you don't encounter with normal tanks is foam and container degradation. After 3-5 years or so the foam needs to be replaced because it is slowly eaten by the gas, but the foam is usually pretty cheap. Tanks with a separate bladders should have the bladder checked out at least every 5 years and possibly replaced every 5-7 years depending on environment. Tanks like the fuel safe which have the bladder inside the plastic may last longer but still need to have the foam replaced.

[BulletBug]

is the mounting included in ur kit humble? or DIY? ATL is in US right?

[Humble]

Unfortunately, theres no mounting kit inculded but that makes sense given that most spare tire wells are different. It's all diy for mounts and you can do a google image search for "atl well cell" to find a few. ATL is based out of the US and England with distributors all over.

[BulletBug]

how much is the replacement foam? is it sold on from ATL or normal hardware have them.... im really going for a diff look... a totally racing look... plus its a safer tank..

[Humble]

The foam is $104 from ATL but you should be able to get it cheaper from a distributor. It's a special open cell foam that's resistant to race fuel, methanol, ethanol and not something you can usually pick up locally. In supers it's possible to use a remote filler neck on the fuel cell and still use the stock filler location.

[BulletBug]

any pics of the ATL tank completely bolted on ur bug??

[Humble]

I haven't gotten that far yet, but I'll be there soon. We'll be touching up the last of the cage paint this weekend then start on the fuel system. If you look through the featured articles on the main site you'll find a couple of the Jeffery's car. I really like the way he mounted his tank and I'll probably end up doing the same.

[evilC]

As a matter of principle I would rather see the tank mounted back behind the front axle line, within the wheelbase to reduce the polar moment of inertia. I appreciate that the tank would have to be mounted high up that increases the roll couple but thats easier to deal with that having a variable large mass outboard of the wheel base. It of course doesn't matter if you don't need to get the best handling for turning corners.

evilC