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Cylinders
Hi everyone, I am trying to get my machinst to make me a set of Aluminum Cylinders. I am trying to find a very good Aluminum to have the cylinder made from. 2618, 4032, I believe have to much Silicone in the formula. I am told that Nikisil will not adhere to a high silicone base Aluminum.
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I once had the same idea and tried to find the suitable alloy. I can have them plated locally. Then i bought some Mahles cheap from ebay. I remember this thread at stf:
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewto...04085&start=15 regards iv |
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6061 t-6
Well, it seems as though my choices of aluminum's are greatly restricted by large quantities of purchase. 4032 would have been the perfect aluminum, but upon research I can only find 4032 in diameters of up to 2 1/2 inches. And the aluminum's such as 2018, 2016 of which they use to make Pistons are not playable with Nick assail. Even the true to its 6061 is going to be costly. But at the end of the day, I am forced to choose 6061 T6 extruded. Wish me luck
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Says who?
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20"s
Hi Walter, I may be wrong, it 2018 and I believe 2031.
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AFAIK, they can even nikasil iron liners...
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above 13%
Hi Walter, the people at US chrome stated anything about 13% silicon in the aluminum formula would be a problem in the plating process using the Nikisil. Not only that, I have been coming across companies that can only sell in length and weight. I really wanted to 4032, but I could not find any place that was selling the 4032 in size greater than 2.5 inches in diameter. Yeah I tried to cut corners by asking the Internet community. I also called the machine shop called Costa Mesa R&D the machinist name is John Edwards. Well if they don't fuse together, or lose their shape and aluminum does as it should and dissipate the heat I think I will be okay. So the one thing left is, some 356 lifters from Porsche and ratio rockers from Pauter and I'm done with this engine.
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JE states that 4032 has indeed high silicon content, but 2618 hardly has any silicium as JE says. Thats the alu you started the thread with. Why not use that?
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Here's a good article on the subject:
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Arti..._coatings.aspx The article states that the coating will not work on any 2000 series aluminum alloy. |
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US chrome and millennium technologies
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After all machining and plating is done, I am pretty sure you will have spend about that amount...
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...or more.
Rarely is one-off stuff cheaper.
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Exactly.Not only that,but you still have a product that you don not know how well it will perform.I would actually rather try the AA nikasil cylinders before spending a lot of money on having cylinders made.Yes,the LN cylinders are expensive,but they are a proven product.Another option worth looking into would be alusil cylinders from Mahle that are made for the 3.6 Porsche from the 993 model (the last aircooled model) and modify them to fit a type 4 case.However,after machining the price is probably the same or even higher than the LN cylinders.The only cheaper way around the LN cylinders are the AA cylinders.Iīm not saying they are better or even equal to the LN cylinders.However the Chinese have been the worldīs leader in aluminum nikasil products for over 20 years.Most OEM car and motorcycle engine blocks and heads that are alu-nikasil come from China including VW.Itīs not all bad from China.Itīs just finding the right company just like anywhere else.There are crappy companies in Germany and USA also.
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The 3.6 Liter has a 102mm bore.
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