April meet?

**petevw** · #1 March 18th 2005, 19:53

are we getting together this month?

Sandeep · #2 March 19th 2005, 10:39

How about first or second week of April ... will have the bug on the road by then !

Sandeep

**petevw** · #3 March 20th 2005, 12:41

cool, lets get back to our 2nd tuesday of the month meetings.

April 12th.

Sandeep could you change the topic to April meet?

**petevw** · #4 March 26th 2005, 17:40

April 12th?

Mark the canuck · #5 March 26th 2005, 22:04

someone PM me if you lock down a date...I'll try to make it and bring a nickie for you guys to drool on.

Alex · #6 March 28th 2005, 16:58

April 12th it is.

I change the name of the thread as you requested.

See you then,

Alex

**petevw** · #7 March 28th 2005, 17:21

cool,

if anyone wants to see, i'll bring by a set of Pauter rods.

Sandeep · #8 March 29th 2005, 10:18

April 12th is good .. supposed to be +12 deg C. and I'll be driving the Bug.

Pete,

Bring the rods ! .. where are you taking the oil temp with the DS system ? I have the stock 914 "Taco" plate used for sensing oil temp if any one wants it $20, does not include the VDO temp sender.

Since this is now a DS motor, I'm thinking the temp could be taken in the tank ? or should it be in the path where the oil would be hottest ? Like right after the scavenge stage, before the oil cooler ?

Thanks,

Sandeep

67ghiaTIV · #9 March 29th 2005, 11:03

Sandeep, I am interested in the taco plate. I will try to get in touch.

Jamie

BWE · #10 March 29th 2005, 16:11

I'll try to be there for the 12th, the bug won't be though

still waiting for the tranny (seven weeks!).
Pete, can you bring the oil cooler (if you still have it?).
Cheers,
Dave

**petevw** · #11 March 30th 2005, 03:14

Sandeep, i'm taking my oil temp right at the bottom of the sump plate. i figured why record the temp after its cooled? i want to know the temp of the oil in the motor. the sender threads into where the drainplug was.

i'll bring the rods and oil cooler.

to get some more people out, i posted on the vwvortex site in the canada regional, and aircooled sections as "GTA aircooled VW GTG/club". i cut and pasted the info from Alex 's meeting sticky.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=94

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=9

CLKWRK · #12 March 30th 2005, 10:00

Heya Pete,
I figure if your dry sump is doing its job, the sump should be close to empty most of the time, thus giving you a lower reading than you actually should be getting.
I take mine at the pulley side releif valve, that way it gets a constant flow of oil and i know the oil temp as it enters the case before its used by the engine.
bry

Sandeep · #13 March 30th 2005, 11:21

I agree with CLKWRK on the oil temp in the case.

Don't you want to know the temp as the oil exits the scavange side of the pump, before the oil cooler ? I would think this is the hottest oil temp location.

With a turbo, this temp will definately be higher becasue it will include the oil from the turbo, and not be a true indicator of engine oil temp.

Right now, I have a thermostat with fan for the cooler, and I know when the fan kicks on, the oil temp is 180F.

Sandeep

**petevw** · #14 March 30th 2005, 23:47

While my car is running, the oil always checks in at least half full. What are the the oil levels supposed to look like in a drysump setup?
When i'm cold, the oil level rises in the motor, and the tank gets really low. When the motor is hot, the tank is almost full, and the motor is like half.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandeep

Don't you want to know the temp as the oil exits the scavange side of the pump, before the oil cooler ? I would think this is the hottest oil temp location.

Sandeep

I figure as long as the temp of the oil in the case is good, everything else is fine. If the temp sensor is at the oil before it circulates through the motor's oil galley's, all the crank journals, and other surfaces, you'll never know if you have problem, because your cooler and other stuff will bring back the temp. Say, you have excess blowby or the bearings are starting to get tight you figure that everthing is ok because the temp going in is fine. But, coming out it could be stupid hot boiling over getting real thin, so now your oblivious to what the oil is like after it has been "worked".

Could be wrong but it makes sense to me.

This is how i have everything plumbed:

tank-> straight into inlet of pump unobstructed->which goes into motor->out of motor into second stage of pump-> out the pump to the front of the car-> into the oil cooler->back to the rear shelf-> into filter -> into tank

all with 3/4 hose/pipe.

btljus · #15 April 6th 2005, 20:48

I'll see you guys on the 12th...but not in the bug, still waiting to fix the tranny/axels issue. Good thing is that I have the parts lined up, now just have to go and do it

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