Imohr from Brazil

[wouter1303]

Hi,

During my browsing for suspension ideas for my 1303 I came across the site of Imohr from Brazil.
Anyone familiair with this brand?

https://imohr.com.br/en/products/8

[DORIGTT]

I've seen their stuff online, and it looks promising!

[owdlvr]

I've got some friends building cars in Canada with their products, and they seem to think they're high quality. No one that I know of has tested the suspensions on a race track or similar, to really determine how good they are. I've got a project in the pipeline that will be using both the front and rear setup, but that is a couple of years off at this point. I heavily considered it for the red '68 beetle, if we weren't in a virus-shut-down situation, I probably would have pulled the trigger on it.

[wouter1303]

ok, pricing looks fine to me and it looks like good quality.
Other brands here in Europe are kinda expensive....

I keep these in mind

[jmd]

I'm just getting back into the forums but wanted to share that I've just received both the front and rear setup from Imhor - I went for their STR version of the front setup as I have spindles that I've already adapted through Lanner @ vdubengineering for the 944 stuff. I'll get some photos hosted up and shared out soon. If anyone has any questions, let me know - I'm up in seattle and have gone through the entire "inquiry > Purchase > Shipping > Customs > Delivery > Unpacking" and am in the process of getting my chassis prepared to install over the next few weeks and will share out the build elsewhere.

[wouter1303]

whoah, you have my attention. please share the progress. I bet the rest of the forum want to see the pics too!

[owdlvr]

I'd love for you to post some details of the welds. That's the only negative thing I've heard (so far). A buddies shop here in BC has built a couple of cars with the Imhor setup, but it appears they are all garage queens and no one that I know has actually driven the setups hard.

[jmd]

I will do - I'm not a welder by any means and so don't know "good from bad" but do know boogers from what look to be quality welds without being able to speak to penetration. My build is purely intended to be driven as hard as I can drive it. Which is why I'm going this direction. The parts are super clean, they seem to be very well engineered with loads of adjustment and polished finish. The guys at Imhor were great to deal with, worked with my customer requests re: sway bar addition etc. I spoke with a few other guys that have at least the front ends on their cars, one of which is a EJ25+NOS mid-engine bug that will be hitting the roads soon and that dude is for sure a hard driver, so he might be the first to totally beat on those parts for a review. Stay tuned as I ramp up!

[jmd]

Let see if this works. This is the front and rear, unpackaged but still on the shipping pallet.





You'll also peek at my fuel tank, and the parts I'm pulling together to build out the rest of the rear setup.
I've also got an alternate steering setup that might get used which is an inverted Subaru STI JDM RHD Power Steering rack - which I might use as I'm running an STI engine which has the PS pump on it just need custom PS lines - for now I'll stick with what they included.


And here is a full gallery on my personal site of the unboxing / detailed photos of the parts so you can have a peak. They are raw and some or mis-oriented but you can tilt your head easily enough to see the details.

[owdlvr]

Thank you for posting these!

And after going through your photos, I now understand what some of my friends who had seen them in person were talking about:







Here's the thing, those welds aren't necessarily "bad", but I would be tempted to sandblast the parts to confirm them. I talked it over with a fabricating buddy of mine when I was considering ordering the full front/rear setup (before I bought the red car) and we agreed that we can't reverse engineer the setup for less than they are charging. Even if we have to re-make a couple of their parts, we are far better off both economically and time wise.

-Dave

[effvee]

Originally Posted by owdlvr

Thank you for posting these!

And after going through your photos, I now understand what some of my friends who had seen them in person were talking about:







Here's the thing, those welds aren't necessarily "bad", but I would be tempted to sandblast the parts to confirm them. I talked it over with a fabricating buddy of mine when I was considering ordering the full front/rear setup (before I bought the red car) and we agreed that we can't reverse engineer the setup for less than they are charging. Even if we have to re-make a couple of their parts, we are far better off both economically and time wise.

-Dave

Wow, suspension is one thing, but steering is another. If you question the quality of workmanship, are you going to put your health and wellbeing on the line? Is there a reason why you don't reach out to the builder with your concerns, maybe ask for the questionable part be replaced. You may need pay for shipping, better than a hospital stay

[owdlvr]

Originally Posted by effvee

Wow, suspension is one thing, but steering is another. If you question the quality of workmanship, are you going to put your health and wellbeing on the line? Is there a reason why you don't reach out to the builder with your concerns, maybe ask for the questionable part be replaced. You may need pay for shipping, better than a hospital stay

Well, it's not my kit, but my comments on someone else's kit. I would still be fine purchasing the kit, knowing I may need to make some corrections. For myself, I have more confidence that we (being my motorsport fabrication friends and I) can correct/repair any issues faster and with more confidence then I would have with "sending it back" for fixes.

When you do the math on the time and effort to develop something like this, it's often much faster to improve upon a design already made.

[effvee]

Originally Posted by owdlvr

Well, it's not my kit, but my comments on someone else's kit. I would still be fine purchasing the kit, knowing I may need to make some corrections. For myself, I have more confidence that we (being my motorsport fabrication friends and I) can correct/repair any issues faster and with more confidence then I would have with "sending it back" for fixes.

When you do the math on the time and effort to develop something like this, it's often much faster to improve upon a design already made.

Understood, however if something goes wrong, the buyer assumes the responsibility..

[owdlvr]

Originally Posted by effvee

Understood, however if something goes wrong, the buyer assumes the responsibility..

You're buying a major suspension/steering component from Brazil...that completely alters the vehicle from stock. You are absolutely taking on all the responsibility, whether you alter it or not.

[wouter1303]

Originally Posted by owdlvr

Thank you for posting these!

And after going through your photos, I now understand what some of my friends who had seen them in person were talking about:

.....

Here's the thing, those welds aren't necessarily "bad", but I would be tempted to sandblast the parts to confirm them. I talked it over with a fabricating buddy of mine when I was considering ordering the full front/rear setup (before I bought the red car) and we agreed that we can't reverse engineer the setup for less than they are charging. Even if we have to re-make a couple of their parts, we are far better off both economically and time wise.

-Dave

Those welds look kinda 'big', doesn't mean they're bad indeed. But I have seen different...
And since suspension is something you have to trust....
This will keep me thinking what to buy in the furure.
I once saw someone make these in aluminium, but i can't find it.