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Old June 24th 2004, 15:44
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Painting Vent Windows???

I pulled the vent windows out of the doors of my '69 Beetle last night and removed all the felt/rubber seals. I'd like to paint the window frames black. Can they be powder coated? If yes, I'd assume I need to remove the glass to do it due to the heat required for curing. What about simply using standard "bumper black" rattle can paint? Anyone done either method???
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Old June 24th 2004, 16:33
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Hi Mike,
Beetles aren't my thing so I'm going from memory here!!
I take it the window frames are chrome?? like on the bay bus, if so you will need to get the chrome sand/shot/media blasted then you can have the finished however you like but care must be taken as I think you will need to dissassemble the opening parts as these will seize when the paint/powder coat dries.

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Old June 24th 2004, 17:10
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I took my vent windows to the powder coaters.
Have to remove all rubber & plastic items.
They came out excellent.
For the chrome that goes around the big window I shot that with satin black paint after scuffing it up. Because it couldnt powder coated seeing the window felt is attached to it.
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Old June 24th 2004, 23:02
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For the chrome that goes around the big window I shot that with satin black paint after scuffing it up.
I assume you're talking about the larger door glass and trim. What did you do for the glass in the vent window? Does it have to come out prior to powder coating? How do you remove it and reinstall it? I can't tell if it has a seal or is siliconed into the frame.
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Old June 25th 2004, 02:32
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I'm powdercoating all my 70 bug window trim (wing, door, and popout). Here's how I'm doing it:
1. Drill out the upper rivets for the wing window hinges -- replace w/ new for assembly. Loosen lower clamp and pull wing from frame.
2. Remove wing glass by prying frame loose. See wolfsburgwest for new sealing rubber.
3. Drill out wing lock rivets -- replace with new for assembly.
4. Remove wing lock black handle by drilling out flared pivot pin. Drill and tap for 4-40 to replace pivot pin with cap screw. Powdercoat the wing lock seperate from the frame.
5. Remove wing frame plastic pivot -- it'll cook in cure oven... Remove felt channel.
6. Remove window trim from door. Remove rubber wipers from trim by prying loose the clips.
7. Remove popout windows and pry frame from glass. Mine were tough to remove - bent a little while removing, but bent back to minimize flexing after powdercoating. Powdercoating is ductile and can handle some bending for reinstallation. Replace rubber seal.
8. Drill out pivot pins of popout latch and remove handle. Replace pivots with custom turned parts and flare with punch after powdercoating (machining required).
9. Drill out pivot pin for inside door latch lever. Replace pin with screw/nut for assembly. Powdercoat metal lever to match black plastic trim.
10. Sand out scratches.
11. Coat with Cardinal 20% gloss black TGIC polyester powdercoat to match sheen of rubber.
12. Tint windows and reassemble. Press/tap frames onto glass with rubber seals while protecting with towel/wooden block.

It cost $200 to powdercoat all the trim/latches and a RLR roll bar/traction bar (Class A Powdercoat, Sacramento, 916-681-7474 -- great service). Pictures to follow.
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Old June 25th 2004, 08:19
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I had both my front quarter window assemblies and both rear pop out windows Powder Coated here in Daytona for only $50.
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Old June 25th 2004, 08:22
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Great info. Thanks Bill... :agree: :agree:
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Old July 26th 2004, 14:32
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Found it. Scroll down about 3/4 of the page... :agree:

http://www.thebugshop.org/bsp57_15.htm
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Excellent. I'll try it that way, but use bar clamps instead of the Workmate bench clamp (don't have...). Thanks for the link. It'll be a couple weeks before I get to it as I want to get the car drivable (windowless) ASAP.
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Got the vent windows and frames tore apart for powder coating. Everything went great until it came time to remove the lower frame pivots (white plastic T-shaped thing in the frame channel) which were brittle and busted into pieces when I tried to remove them. Anyone know where to get them or have some they would be willing to part with???
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Old September 23rd 2004, 14:55
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Mike, bummer on the pivots. I've never seen those sold seperate.. Junk yard?

I got my wing windows back together. First, I tried the clamping method above but the frame seal from wolfsberg is too thick for this method. I used bar clamps instead of the clamp bench, but the seal is really tight where the latch is and I decided to try another approach before going godzilla on it.

I went to a local glass shop and got some "bug tape" which is much thinner. Sprayed and wiped it with WD40 to make it swell and get tacky. Wrapped around glass edge. Pushed into frame by hand. Tapped frame home with rubber mallet with glass resting on carpet covered 2x4 board. Used two layers of masking tape on frame to keep hammer from marring powdercoat surface. Trimmed excess "bug tape" with razor. The "bug tape" is a good fit, but could be a little tighter. Maybe a thin coat of sealant inside the frame would have been a good idea.
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Thanks for the tips Bill. I did find some replacement pivot bushings, and the frames are off to the powder coater... :agree:
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Nice mirror Bill..
looks sweet
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Finally got the powder coated vent windows back together and installed with the new seals and scrapers. Thanks for the earlier tips Bill...

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Old June 17th 2006, 19:24
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