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Old July 6th 2004, 17:30
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True, but some of the best handling cars (except 911 it seems, and I've had people tell me a 944 will outhandle a 911) are AWD and/or 50/50 weight dist? What does it all mean? How do you make these cars handle?

(I'm a dunce..)

By worlds best handling cars, I mean Ferarri F50, BMW M3, Porsche 944, WRX, Anything Ford Cosworth..etc. (All in their own right, some need a little work to get there, but are excelent platforms) And I know 911 is in there somewhere too.
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Old August 5th 2004, 10:48
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It's all the driver.

You just have to know how to drive a rear engined car to understand the advantage over some other types of car formats.

The rear weight over the drive wheels is a powerful advantage and disadvantage. The advantage is that the rear end weight offers excellent rear traction. The bad is that if the rearend breaks loose in a turn then it is harder to "catch".

Race drivers can use the rear weight to "turn" the racecars via the throttle (kind of like drifting or rally racing - just not as extreme) and that helps keep speed as it is not shaved off by the front tires. IMHO the front drivers offer the worst setup to be fast on the track (granted some are still very fast) as the front tires are meant to pull, turn, and stop all the time and share no real work load with the rears (okay maybe 10%).

Power slide a RWD car and you will understand! Yah BMWs and Camaros are fine, but are not a 911 in the turns. Or a hot VW!
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Old August 8th 2004, 09:40
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A true testament to the beetles handling is when Sport compact Car had their utimate street car challenge. In just the handling department there were two beetles, one a full race standard with wider rims and fenders and the other a super with new shocks and a performance anti-sway bars. The full race standard took 2nd place over all and the near stock Super took 2nd in the slolom? course... I think the WRX was in 7th place...
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Old August 8th 2004, 10:58
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The Super had a 1641 w/ Kadrons, and the suspension wasn't anything to crazy, The cars it was up against were quite the machines too. A couple of tuned RX-7's, 914-6, I think there was a Cosworth Escort, the WRX,...
Pillow is on the money, in capable hand a rear engined car is very effective on the track.

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Old August 16th 2004, 23:35
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Hey BoyGenius,

What issue of Sport Compact was that article in? I would love to read it if one the web or buy a "back issue".

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Hey BoyGenius,

What issue of Sport Compact was that article in? I would love to read it if one the web or buy a "back issue".

Thanks,

I don't remember what issue it was in it was years ago...

I'll see if my friend remembers when he bought the magazine, it was also available on tape/DVD at the time.
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G Force challenge is the video. There were stories in alot of mags. from that challenge.
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