Most Reliable Power per Dollar Spent!?

[Massive Type IV]

My 914 with stock gearing will turn 110 in 3rd gear at 7700 RPM.. Thats with 181 BHP and a rev range to 8,300 RPM.. It idles stock and doesn't sound built till you tap the throttle.

[NO_H2O]

"Tap the throttle" LOL.... When do you ever "Tap the throttle" in that thing.
That 2316 is the sickest sounding, quickest reving air-cooled engine I have ever heard. It does have a nice smooth idle that will fool you into thinking it is tame. But I can say first hand that it is VERY ill tempered and sounds like it belongs on the Road Atlanta track when you open the taps.

[Massive Type IV]

And next it gets Nickies and a Roller cam set up- Thats automatically a boost to over 200 ponies with no other changes made to the engine..

[Mysticle31]

These revver engines are $$. I'd like to have a good ole cast iron 2270 that could do it. I like the WIDE torque. But I also like the advantage of being able to sit in lower gears for longer then the other guy giving me the multiplication.


Jake, You've kinda been following along. What to do you sugest? (Dont' need anything WOOW! just 150, 160HP. 180 Max, or should I say. Max 10:1 HP per pound in a full mullholland 1302 superbeetle with 944 stuff.


I'm conserned that stock 1st gear in these VW's is going to be too short and useless.. (that's what jake uses in his trannys)?

[Massive Type IV]

The engine in my 914 is a standard 2316 Annihilator.. It makes 152 lb/ft of torque at just 2,000 RPM. Thats good enough to roast the tires any time.. This engine was the first of its kind and so far has been the weakest one I have built.

First is not rendered totally useless, its good for bad *** burnouts! I have an option of an aftermarket mainshaft, but it adds 600.00 to the cost of the tranny. Then we can run whatevcer gears deemed necessary by the dyno plots.

You tell me where you want the power and I combine the math with knowledge and past engines performance and make it exactly as you desire- thats the beauty of non standard combinations- and what you are paying me for..

Its all in the combo!

I'd say you need a 9.5:1 2316 with one broad *** power range and a flat torque curve- nuttin to it, just open the old wallet and slide the engine in!

[Mysticle31]

I'm not to interested in 'put the engine in your wallet' although I do recognice that you need to pay for the good stuff..

So what's the best way to make power good and get optimal use of the gearing? Mabey a slighly taller third. I'm not as much interested in the amount of power I have, as much as I want the ability to use what I have. (although willing to add more as long as it's useable)

[Mysticle31]

My train of thought is this: Making the most of the power you have (or finding a good range/power to get) for optimal take offs per your tirers grip.

That way if I had a really tall 1st gear to make use of the power then. Sure I could take it up to 50mph, but the top end would be useless becouse all the other gears would be adjusted accordingly. And I don't need a car with a top speed of 160.

I can generate more power perhaps, and optimise the gearing. Mabey see if I can wind the engine out to 7, 8 grand instead?

[zen]

Originally Posted by Massive Type IV

My 914 with stock gearing will turn 110 in 3rd gear at 7700 RPM.. Thats with 181 BHP and a rev range to 8,300 RPM.. It idles stock and doesn't sound built till you tap the throttle.

LOL again. of course when you tap that one you are at 7k in the blink of an eye...actually quicker.