English-to-German help needed

[oasis]

The aprons we have in the states starting with the 1975 model year are different than what you are showing me. We have a different set-up because of the catalytic converter that was legislated. Our '75s-on-up have one exhaust portal which is off-center.

The thermal wrap doesn't sound like a bad option, though. Or, if available, I guess I could try to attain a Euro-apron.

I suppose I just don't understand the pictures on their Web site. I don't see how their exhaust uses a muffler which exits a standard apron.

Thanks for the info. I'll keep gathering more info to see what my ultimate options are.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by oasis

I don't see how their exhaust uses a muffler which exits a standard apron.

It does, just like in Eisblau's car; but only if you use the complete muffler set-up also of course. It uses only one exit, the left one. I have the 21152E and 21149E and it exits nicely out the left apron hole (when its back in the car .
What do you not understand?

Greetings,
Walter

[eisblau]

Originally Posted by oasis

I suppose I just don't understand the pictures on their Web site. I don't see how their exhaust uses a muffler which exits a standard apron.

Thanks for the info. I'll keep gathering more info to see what my ultimate options are.

May be it helps you, if Wally or any other of the Germanlook.com users makes a photo of their BAS muffler setup already installed? If you have time till May, 1st I can take a lot of BAS muffler pictures at the "Maikäfertreffen" .
On your car (The photo you posted) the muffler will fit about 90% or more and one exhaust tip will exit on the left (Like Wally already posted!)

Now I have a question about your rear taillights! Are these original U.S. spec? Do they have a reflector on the side (yellow or red?) and are there any more differences to the Euro spec.? I am looking for them a long time in Germany, but they were not available.

Norbert

[Wally]

Sorry bout the mistaken car identity Norbert
I like the idea on the euro GL meet but how do you mobilise all euro GL's to do the same?
And yes, I usually go to Spa (of course). Maybe better to organise s/th about GL within the Spa meet. Not sure if this can be organised with our Belgian friends, although Spa does get better organised each year I think

Gruss,
Walter

[Chris Percival]

Don't worry, I have had the same type of replies of them myself. I just want to reply and say "well if your bl**dy website was any better, I am sure you wouldn't have so many emails asking questions!"...

[eisblau]

Originally Posted by Wally

I like the idea on the euro GL meet but how do you mobilise all euro GL's to do the same?

I thought about just the european user of this forum (For the first step). It would be a good opportunity to meet each other (The area is so big, I can't imagine to find anybody... ), may be near the pits in the afternoon before the cruise on the track?

Norbert

[zen]

i would love to see a GL.com get together over there. been rambling to myself about doing the same on this side. of course i would also love to see a euro GL club formed. obviously i would hope that GL.com would be used for the forum for the club.

if there is anything i can do from a site perspective in you guys having a get together, let me know. someone taking pics and a small write up on the get together would be VERY cool. everyone is always curious what other look like and i am sure it would be a fine collection of cars to have in some shots.

get the ball rolling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wally]

Originally Posted by eisblau

, may be near the pits in the afternoon before the cruise on the track?

Norbert

yes, the area behind the pits is very suited if it isn't too crowded then (arrive early ), Lets talk again if its summer and my car runs with its new engine and other upgrades

Walter

[oasis]

Dang, I thought I responded to this yesterday. Anyway, I'll try again.

Originally Posted by eisblau

If you have time till May, 1st I can take a lot of BAS muffler pictures at the "Maikäfertreffen"

Oh, I'll have time. I'm still in the fact-finding stage.

Originally Posted by eisblau

On your car (The photo you posted) the muffler will fit about 90% or more and one exhaust tip will exit on the left

That's just it. I saw a picture in Keith Seume's book which exits at both outlets on a stock apron. It is reportedly a BAS exhaust. In fact, the picture is of an older standard Beetle with a Type IV engine. If I get the chance, I will post that picture.

Originally Posted by eisblau

Now I have a question about your rear taillights! Are these original U.S. spec? Do they have a reflector on the side (yellow or red?) and are there any more differences to the Euro spec.? I am looking for them a long time in Germany, but they were not available.

Those taillights were US-only for the 1971 and 1972 model years. They are larger than the European counterparts, although not as large as the 1973-onward "elephant's feet."

The reflectors are red. Their size would dictate you needing an entire assembly. (Yellow or amber reflectors were for the front. They were incorporated in the fender-mounted indicators from 1971-79 in the states. Bumper-incorporated indicators were never officially offered in the states.)

The taillight assemblies are available here, still. Some aftermarket doodle makes lenses in that size in the European color configuration (amber/red/clear) but Volkswagen only ever offered them as red/red/clear.

I'll trade you two assemblies for a BAS exhaust.

[eisblau]

Originally Posted by oasis

I'll trade you two assemblies for a BAS exhaust.

Hmm... I don't know if it is a good deal :-) I have to sleep over it (It could take a very long time... :-) )

Thank you for your answer... I hope some of my friends visit the US and gets e some.

Norbert

[Sandeep]

Originally Posted by oasis

That's just it. I saw a picture in Keith Seume's book which exits at both outlets on a stock apron. It is reportedly a BAS exhaust. In fact, the picture is of an older standard Beetle with a Type IV engine. If I get the chance, I will post that picture.

I have that book and know the pic you are talking about .. its of a Blue and a Grey/Silver Oval, rear 3/4 shot showing the engines in both beetles.

The book says its a type 4, but the intake manifolds in the pic looks more like a T1, and BAS does have a header exiting the stock outlets for a T1. Pretty sure thats the case here.

Sandeep

[Wally]

Yeah, Keith Seume doesn't do Type 4 engines in his books; at all...

[oasis]

Originally Posted by Wally

Yeah, Keith Seume doesn't do Type 4 engines in his books; at all...

I think you are referring to his engine modification book -- I don't have it and don't know the title of it.

One of his books, Custom Volkswagens or something like that, is an informationfest on different styles of customization. The chapter on the German Look also includes the French Look, and does mention Type IV engines. Now, ...

Originally Posted by Sandeep

I ... know the pic you are talking about.

The book says its a type 4, but the intake manifolds in the pic looks more like a T1, and BAS does have a header exiting the stock outlets for a T1.

That's interesting.

When the time comes, someone will have a something functional and attractive (if not actually exiting the apron cutouts). I am personally not going to spend that kind of money on a drivetrain only to have it look like a Saturn SUV while scraping the exhaust on driveways and such -- even if I have to commission a one-off to do it.

Difficult? Maybe. Pricey? Probably. Impossible? I may be an admitted technoklutz, but I haven't seen any evidence on why it would be.