what would the hp be?

[EvilAngel]

Originally Posted by oasis

When I was investigating engines for me, not one person mentioned a 2007cc Type I -- good or bad. If I had gone with a Type I instead of my 2056cc Type IV, I probably would have leaned towards a 2110cc.

The funny thing is after I described my joyful return with my new engine, a Type I enthusiast deadpanned that it sounded like a 2007cc. That was the first time I had heard of a 2007cc. It started a whole firestorm of opinions flying back and forth about Type I versus Type IV.

Anyway, I went through a lot of effort in investigating the different choices. I took a lot of notes. I mentioned the 1776cc and the 1915cc because those were my findings as opposed to my opinion. As I said in an earlier post, I am not an expert and I don't play one on the Internet.

I am sure a 2007cc would be funner than a 1776cc. Maybe funnier, too.

Well I am no expert either, but i have read many things about this combo on thesamba, and several people claim that's it's a very good street engine.

And as you can see, english isn't my main language

Veedub: I find your plan excellent

Now some links, they're abou pros and cons of 2007 vs 1776
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

[Veedub]

I thought it was a good idea too.
The 1600cc will be stock.
The other I was thinking of buying the 1641cc rebuild kit i showed you in a previous post. So-Cal Imports sales a head called the Outlaw head, with 40x35.5 valves, high rev springs ,chromoly retainers and s/s sure grip, last I checked they cost 189.95 standard bore.A cam comes in the rebuild kit which is cool. Carberators Id probably just run dual 35mm solex carbs.Then for the one going in my car now ....maybe a 2007cc or whatever project.
I could always build a 1641cc and turbocharge it just playing

Edit: the rebuild kit comes with 85.5,87, or 88mm pistons'
new stock OEM connecting rods,I-beam con rods, or H beam con rods
new stock 69mm crank,scat 69mm cast crank, or 69mm 4140 forged c/w crank
8 x stock replacement cam lifters/followers,8 x 28mm HD Lube-a-lobe followers/lifters, 8 x 30mm HD cam lifters/followers, or 8 x 30mm HD lube-a-lobe followers/lifters
Stock dished gear 1971-1979 camshaft w/gear attached, Engle W100 camshaft W/O gear, Engle W110 camshaft W/O gear, or Engle W120 camshaft W/O gear
Bolt-on cam gear for Hi-Per. cams (optional)

[EvilAngel]

Turbo is not a bad idea. However, it's expensive and requires pretty much everything forged if you want reliability

[Veedub]

Yeah I see that its expensive, N/A is cheaper.

[oasis]

Originally Posted by EvilAngel

And as you can see, english isn't my main language

Your English is much more goodly than my German, Spanish, or French.

I just enjoyed the typo creating a new word and a new meaning, that's all.

[EvilAngel]

Vujade: I agree with you, an did noted that before, but since veedub is goind to build the big engine relatively soon I didn't mention it
Oasis: Well thanks, BTW my German and French knowledge is very close to nothing, mostly lyrics from Rammstein and Enigma

[Veedub]

I been looking at kits on the cip1 website and found these kits what you guys think?
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2027%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2095%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2110%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2161%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2161%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2187%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2234%2D1

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails....C15%2D2275%2D1

Would these kits be worth it or would they most likely be cheap stuff?

[EvilAngel]

Well those are good if youre biulding an engine form scrap, but since you already have the case, you will be spending unnecesarily. Plus, being a racing kit, i keep my doubts about reliability

[Veedub]

yeah good point, I think its just a longblock anyways and for only racing too.

I think I basically got my plans (ahead of time so I know what I want to do in advance) I want to build a 1776cc thats reliable but still able to play, you know Heres what I found so far, that I will save up for.You can add any recomendations if you like
Anyways...
Scat Pro Street Forged 1.25:1 rockers- 157.45 (to cheap?)
Engle W110 cam with a .430" lift and .284" duration- 64.95
Billet Steel Straight Cut cam- 73.45
Super Big Bore Kit 90.5mm p&c's forged- 199.95
4140 Forged Chromoly 69mm crank- 179.95
Pertronix Distributor Ignitor II w/ non vac- 169.95
Flamethrower II Coil - 37.95
Pertronix 8.0mm plug wires- 29.95

Im not sure what carbs, exhaust, or heads Id want to use though, any ideas?

[EvilAngel]

Well i think you have there a very nice setup. Overengineered, for added reliability. About the carbs, i have read several times that the best option are dual weber idf, perhaps with that setup you should go with 40's or at mos 44's. Dells and Kads are another option, and cheaper too. The exhaust will depend on the heads, I'd stay with 044s, ported and polished with big valves, say, 40 x 35.5. This would work with a 1 1/2 header. Just remember to get a header with a long collector (4'') and a decent sounding muffler.

Oh and by the way now i can't decide between the 2007 and the 1776 for my bug...
PS: have you upgraded the brakes already?

[Veedub]

Originally Posted by Veedub

Scat Pro Street Forged 1.25:1 rockers- 157.45 (to cheap?)
Engle W110 cam with a .430" lift and .284" duration- 64.95
Billet Steel Straight Cut cam- 73.45
Super Big Bore Kit 90.5mm p&c's forged- 199.95
4140 Forged Chromoly 69mm crank- 179.95
Pertronix Distributor Ignitor II w/ non vac- 169.95
Flamethrower II Coil - 37.95
Pertronix 8.0mm plug wires- 29.95

I did a little more searching (remember project will be a later side project, but like I said, dont hurt to prepare now than not know what I want later on)
well anyways I did a little more searching and found this stuff for a 1776cc or a 2007cc if you desire.Maybe this will help you also Evilangel.
instead of a Engle W110 use a 86A( aircooled.net calls it a Mild Ratio Grind cam) - 94.95
Aircooled.nets, L5 Road Warrior Heads- 750.00 plus a Venturi cut valve job- 50.00 plus Match port intakes (if you buy intakes from them) -50.00
Lowbuggets 1.4:1 forged rockers (need a 1.4 or 1.5:1 rocker with the cam posted above)- 129.99
Lowbugget has malhe forged 90.5 pistons and cylinders- 180.00
Bosch Rev limiting rotors 5800rpms- 24.99
Jbugs Dual 40IDF carb kit (maybe cheaper from somewhere else?)- 829.95

What you think this would do to the reliability issues, anything bad?

a total of 2628.08 of course thats not counting shipping, and hopefully you get more than 100hp