Porsche O.E. Wheel Discussion

[Steve C]

Hi Wally

I must have got something wrong in the measuring.

They are an amazing calliper, very light. Would they fit on the front of a 944 setup? On my car they work very well with the stock 19mm M/C.

So your running 48 mm front callipers are you running the stock M/C?

Steve

[Wally]

Originally Posted by Steve C

Hi Wally

Would they fit on the front of a 944 setup?

No, the bolt spacing of the rear of a 944 (all models) is 94mm IIRC and front 944 is 76mm bolt spacing. Also to remember they are for a 24mm disk; not many front disks are 24mm but you could make s/th work I' am sure.

So your running 48 mm front callipers are you running the stock M/C?

Steve

Yes, with the stock front solid disk. Very hard/high pedal. Really pulls it to the ground on all 4 corners simultaneously. Its an amazing sensation as the car doesn't dive anymore under braking because of that. I do encounter the rear to lock up first in some extreme situaties, which isn't good, so I want to install something porsche/brembo in the front as well one of these days. A bigger disk will probably avoid fade and bite a bit harder/longer so balance will be a tad less agressive. Though I really like how it brakes now, even with the knowledge it could/will lock up in the rear in the end.. I know I' am weird/suicidal

[evilC]

Originally Posted by Wally

................... Though I really like how it brakes now, even with the knowledge it could/will lock up in the rear in the end.. I know I' am weird/suicidal

Wally, why not just add a bias valve to the rear line or a balance bar m/c's that would retain all you have achieved and allow you to dial in the correct bias?

evilC

[Wally]

That was my second thought Steve
Its just that I have noticed that when fully loaded with family and luggage (i.e. dog) and traveling at speed, braking to a full stop does suffer, which is mainly due to the front brakes (they look just like the orginal cast iron ones, but are only one size bigger) with the non-vented disk.
Therefore I still hope to come up with a solution to mount a nice alu Brembo to the front. Problem there is the spindle, its different from a type 1 so a 944 adapter bearing is maybe not possible...but let me worry 'bout that for a while

[evilC]

Wally,

Why not fit the 944 struts c/w discs, the early ones are a straight replacement and even have the speedo cable hole?

evilC

[flat]

Originally Posted by Wally

...its different from a type 1 so a 944 adapter bearing is maybe not possible...but let me worry 'bout that for a while

Wally, they are the same bearings as BJ/SB. I'd like to come up with something if you're up for it? Probably could do a 996 bolt on kit....

Lanner

[Wally]

Originally Posted by flat

Wally, they are the same bearings as BJ/SB. I'd like to come up with something if you're up for it? Probably could do a 996 bolt on kit....

Lanner

Yes the wheel bearings are the same, but they are wider apart on a 412 than on a bug (any year).... I have the adapter parts to press in, but I am not sure the bearing houses would have enough material left in the 944 hub to reside in...

Lanner, if you could make me something, I would definately be up for it, spindle/hub wise or caster adjustment
You know the top strut bearings are the same in my 412 as in my late 1303 beetle and I need the extra caster on both. So an adjustable caster top bearing plate is still on top of my list. Caster I have now is between 1 and 2 degrees and needs to to 6-8 or so for optimum straight line high speed stability. I already have the Topline caster+ sway-bar bushings, but its not enough. Mayby because of my M030 front spindles but I dunno.

Untill I have some top strut caster-adjustment parts, I don't dare go any faster than 120 mph or so....
The lowered 412 has the same problem. So two sets of these could make this all a happy world

Well, you can't blame a guy for trying right? (I know you have other engagements )

Thanks,
Walter

[flat]

Originally Posted by Wally

Well, you can't blame a guy for trying right?

Wally,

No worries, I'm on the project. But I'm in the process of moving and then off for almost a month. So it'll be into the new year before I have anything concrete to show. Also, not sure if I can get that much adjustment out of them. Will have to get out the slide rule and figure it out :-P. Are your cars sleeping for the winter?

In the interim, I could probably come up with a static upper mount with spherical bearing. No adjustment, but fixed at a certain positive caster. Quick, dirty (and probably cheap). You can guinea pig them for me

Lanner

[ferfre007]

increible!!!! todoss!!! hermosos!!!

[vdubfund]

Heres my 1964 short SA bug
Test fit of 16 x7 fuchs , fat 205/55/16 rubber, and Porsche 944 hubs. FITS!!! just , Big of rubbing . A non euro tire would probably help too. Not as wide.

[KaferChris]

987 Boxsters 2.7L wheels 17x8 & 6.5
235/45 & 195/45

Stock late IRS rear, 1-1/4" CCC fenders, 924S brakes w/factory ~19mm spacers

Stock 'Ghia beam with adjusters on front, stock fenders, ~17mm spacers

[KaferChris]

Originally Posted by KaferChris

987 Boxsters 2.7L wheels 17x8 & 6.5
235/45 & 195/45

I'm now looking into these for my girl's 1303 that has stock fenders all the way around - anyone try 17x8 (ET40) with 215/40's on back? Lowered one inner spline.

[flat]

Here's a 56 bus I did last summer. 7 and 8" 16 dials. 4" beam with stock micartas turned down for scratch built beam, 4.85" non-flipped hybrid dropped spindles, boxster brakes, straight axle (short) with Wagenswest offset plates. Rear required 5/8 " spacers.

[flat]

Here's a 59 bug I did last summer. I built a 4" narrowed LP beam (with shocks), Porsche 944NA disks all around etc, dropped drum spindles, short axle, 15x7 et52 wheels, stock 944 22mm rear spacers with studs.