choosing roll cages

[Wally]

This is the Heigo cage I would like to install. The design with the door bars that you can remove are just what I am after. And I like it that I do not need to leave my car with some welding dude in a distant garage.

http://www.heigo.de/ASP/index.asp?IX...CAT=Volkswagen

[Humble]

For a cage in a street car there's really only 2 places to worry about, the upper door frame and main hoop behind driver and passenger. With my cage the down bars next to the upper door frame is pretty close to the driver and passenger, as is the main hoop. I have hit my head on the bar just getting in and out of the car and knocked it leanering into a corner. Padding is a must but the closer the cage gets to the body the less you have to worry about it.

[oasis]

Thanks for the responses, guys. That is plenty for me to go on for now.

The Heigo site gave me a message that started out by saying, "Session-Objekte konnten nicht gelesen werden." Then, it listed different versions of Internet Explorer, Netscape, etc. and (without yet translating it) I think it told me steps I needed to view the site. I will translate it further later when I have the time.

Thanks again.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by oasis

The Heigo site gave me a message that started out by saying, "Session-Objekte konnten nicht gelesen werden." Then, it listed different versions of Internet Explorer, Netscape, etc. and (without yet translating it) I think it told me steps I needed to view the site. I will translate it further later when I have the time.

Thanks again.

Actually, when I tried my own link, it did just the same...
I copied the image for you. There are more detailed pics of the cage, bit it was too much trouble to copy them all. If you really like, you can navigate through their menu and find the 'käfige' (cages) for volkswagen bug models (lot of bug models specified to my surprise!).

[oasis]

Great! That cage looks very similar to the one I had seen once upon a time.

Alright ... SQD Time (Stupid Question of the Day): Is it best -- or the only option -- to take the body off of the chassis first in order to install a roll cage?

[Wally]

Well, I don't intend to

Nah, this is a 'bolt-in' cage. The parts that it consists of can be carried through the doors. Welded-in cages can even only be installed with the body in place, like all other cars that not even have that option like 'we' do with our chassis and body as two seperate parts.

[oasis]

works for me

[evilC]

Originally Posted by Wally

Well, I don't intend to

.............. like all other cars that not even have that option like 'we' do with our chassis and body as two seperate parts.

I don't think you could intall a fully welded cage in a beetle in either the body top half or the chassis without doing a lot of final welding with everything bolted together. The back struts to the rear arches would be the first immediate problem. Despite the awkward welding with a cage insitu it does allow a much tighter fit. You can see why on competition cars the cages often go into a bare shell first with everything following after.

The Heigo cage does raise a few questions about the number of pin joints its got although I can see that for ease of installation in a fitted out car there really isn't much choice.

Clive