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Old February 17th 2003, 16:37
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I agree with Joe. A value compared to the T1 or upright T4 but for different reasons.

Costs so far:
$55 core 2.1 came with great case and 76.4 crank.
$80 2.1 std/std/std KS bearings.
$10 cut off wheels for the water jackets.
$15 two new pushrod tubes (the rest were good to reuse)
$8 front main seal.
$8 rear main seal.
$5ish big pushrod tube seals for the case side.
$30 dual RX-7 oil coolers.
$5 Early fan housing (no cooler) and DP tinware with T3 lower tins.
$0 Remanufactured 12v Generator (do not ask).
$0 Misc T1 parts, what can I say I am a pack rat.
$? T4 210mm pressure plate
$? T4 210mm clutch
$0 T1 fuel pump and rod

Still need to do, but low cost:
Tap for full flow and put in the right plugs.
Clean case completely (twice; one to start and then a finish cleaning once ready to assemble).
Get T4 210mm flywheel.

Custom work:
Relocate case head stud locations, like VW Morten's webpage illustrates.
94B cylinders cut down to fit and compression (read: no spacers, just the way you want it).
Drill T4 flywheel for T1 mainshaft bearing.

Normal crap for any motor:
30mm oil pump $40
full flow cover $20
AN fittings and hoses $100-150ish.
T1 NEW heads drilled to 94. $350ish
94B P&Cs Mahle $150-200 depending (remember these need machined still).
T1 rod bearings $10
T1 cam bearings $12
T1 gasket kit $10
T1/T5 cam, depends $
T4/T5 lifters depends $
T1 stock rods depends $0-150 (H-beam 300).
Full balance job $100-300 depends

That is all I can think of off the top of my head.

Same crap as with any engine. Actually cheap since most of it is T1 stuff.

Not for the novice builder, but still pretty basic at the same time with general tools and skills.

A lot of the detailed stuff on mine is omited to keep this semi easy reading.

My goal is 7:1 CR, 100-140HP, and pushing a '66 Westi with a IRS rear end with a tall Super Beetle 3.88 single side plate tranny. Granted I think this combo could be an easy 150ish motor with a more agressive setup than what I am doing. Once you get into this range a T4 becomes very expensive to get that HP numbers and probably a stroker T4 which gets really painful to setup right (thus is why Jake gets a premium for his T4 HP engines as they are time consuming to get right).

Hope this helps somebody
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